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Old 04-04-2016, 05:27 PM   #21
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I'm going to go out on a limb here and make a guess that not all boat owners are trained and physically able to dive twenty feet and struggle with a stuck anchor.
I agree....

But if you are traveling outside of well travelled areas and you want to be a self sufficient cruiser.... it's a pretty major tool to have in the bag of tricks.

I'd rather dive a couple times to straighten out an anchor situation than repeated dive to untangle and saw off a line from the prop.

Or.....get some training, make a home made hooka, and take it easier for us old guys.
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Old 04-04-2016, 05:36 PM   #22
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Up here in New England, it's a pretty good practice when anchored in crowded anchorages, to deploy an anchor sentinel, a small float on a line attached to the crown eye of the anchor. You would normally set out enough sentinel line slightly more than the high water over your anchor. My sentinel float is painted fluorescent orange with my boat name printed on it. The sentinel shows other boaters where your anchor is, hopefully to avoid someone dropping their anchor on yours, or across your chain. If the sentinel line is strong enough, you could use it to pull a fouled anchor from the opposite direction. While anchored and fishing in craggy areas, it's a common practice here to use a sentinel. I've had to pull a fouled 22# Bruce out with the sentinel a couple of times.
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Calling a trip line ab "sentinel" could be confusing as in Chapman's book a sentinel is the same thing as a Kellet .. or "Anchor Buddy" if your from Oz. But calling a trip line float a sentinel seems a better use of words as the float (probably painted orange) is basically standing guard.
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Old 04-04-2016, 06:07 PM   #23
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I saw something on Facebook where a boat was using a large rubber ducky instead of a traditional round float.
Yep, you can't miss it....

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Old 04-04-2016, 06:34 PM   #24
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I agree....

But if you are traveling outside of well travelled areas and you want to be a self sufficient cruiser.... it's a pretty major tool to have in the bag of tricks.

I'd rather dive a couple times to straighten out an anchor situation than repeated dive to untangle and saw off a line from the prop.

Or.....get some training, make a home made hooka, and take it easier for us old guys.
We all have different circumstances, but for me, cutting it loose is probably the best option. I might as well leave the entire rode and see if a diver can get it for me. It would be cheaper than a replacement rode and anchor.
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Old 04-04-2016, 06:38 PM   #25
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Old 04-04-2016, 08:31 PM   #26
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Anchor trip float with 1/4" double braid line between the eye on the business end of the anchor to the float. I have 50' of line and adjust the length based on the anchorage water depth.
A lot of people don't like floats in an anchorage ..... I've been doing it for decades and will not do without one.
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Sounds like a great idea. I have never done it. Another line and float to store however.
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Old 04-04-2016, 09:05 PM   #28
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A lot of people don't like floats in an anchorage ..... I've been doing it for decades and will not do without one.
Anchorages are like the rest of the world. A lot of people think it's their private domain and don't like floats or other boats or music or generators or air conditioning or grilling or boats bigger than theirs or smaller or with sails or power. The majority are friendly and tolerant.
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I agree....

But if you are traveling outside of well travelled areas and you want to be a self sufficient cruiser.... it's a pretty major tool to have in the bag of tricks.

I'd rather dive a couple times to straighten out an anchor situation than repeated dive to untangle and saw off a line from the prop.

Or.....get some training, make a home made hooka, and take it easier for us old guys.

If you carry a scuba tank on board with a hooka hose set up, no air compressor or motor required due to the tank, you can legally use that set up without a scuba certificate.
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Al, sounds like lots of effort unless one had a high suspicion of an anchor hang-up.
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Al, sounds like lots of effort unless one had a high suspicion of an anchor hang-up.
I'm not worried, but I'm a self admitted belt and suspenders guy. I love redundancy. I also have a 50 ft length of poly on my rode's tag end...just in case it ever gets thrown over without a float. Just coverin' my bases.
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We all have different circumstances, but for me, cutting it loose is probably the best option. I might as well leave the entire rode and see if a diver can get it for me. It would be cheaper than a replacement rode and anchor.

Our rode is selected to mitigate dealing wit the mud around here, but...

An unexpected advantage of our rode system -- 25' chain and then 300' 8-plait rope -- is that I can easily cut the chain off the end, add a float to the chain, and return later if necessary. With a better diver. All of the rope is re-usable.

If we're anchored in 6-7 -- or maybe even 10' -- of water, I used to be able to free-dive that easily enough. Not sure, these days, haven't done that in years. And as I mentioned, can't see squat in the water around here.

Still, I could probably recover the anchor, eventually. Recover the chain or even replace it if useful, re-splice, all good.

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Old 04-05-2016, 07:50 AM   #33
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If you carry a scuba tank on board with a hooka hose set up, no air compressor or motor required due to the tank, you can legally use that set up without a scuba certificate.
You can legally scuba without a certificate as far as I know unless it's some local law....

You just can't get tanks filled without a card as far as I know.

Plus my compressor is 1/3 the size of a tank and weighs half for storage considerations....though 20 feet of depth and I may be getting 1/2 breaths (haven't tried it past 6 feet yet)....may have to get a better compressor when headed for placed I may care to dive deeper.
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Old 04-05-2016, 10:28 AM   #34
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Pgitug,

Up here in New England, it's a pretty good practice when anchored in crowded anchorages, to deploy an anchor sentinel, a small float on a line attached to the crown eye of the anchor. You would normally set out enough sentinel line slightly more than the high water over your anchor. My sentinel float is painted fluorescent orange with my boat name printed on it. The sentinel shows other boaters where your anchor is, hopefully to avoid someone dropping their anchor on yours, or across your chain. If the sentinel line is strong enough, you could use it to pull a fouled anchor from the opposite direction. While anchored and fishing in craggy areas, it's a common practice here to use a sentinel. I've had to pull a fouled 22# Bruce out with the sentinel a couple of times.
I've been boating out of the Mystic area for close to 25 years anchored at Napatree hundreds of times and never saw anyone deploy a sentinel.
I don't think its a very common practice at all. Sorry
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Depending on where you are you may get some help diving on your anchor.



Note, those are saltwater mangroves in the background.

Lawn lizards can and do roam in salt water for a bit looking for food before returning to fresh/brackish water. Don't do it at night when they feed.

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Don't do it at night when they feed.

The may feed at night, but I'm betting they snack all day long. No thanks!!
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I remember a story about a boater who dropped his car keys into the water at a boat ramp so he tried to dive for them breathing through a garden hose.


It didn't turn out well.
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