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Old 01-25-2019, 11:25 PM   #21
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Old 01-31-2019, 06:42 AM   #22
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I prefer to match the windlass lifting ability to the total weight of the anchor and chain.

A 35 ft boat can get away with a 35lb anchor (one pound per foot) buy if a front or thunder storm passes , you will sleep better with a 45 or 60 .
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I prefer to match the windlass lifting ability to the total weight of the anchor and chain.

A 35 ft boat can get away with a 35lb anchor (one pound per foot) buy if a front or thunder storm passes , you will sleep better with a 45 or 60 .

That is not my choice! I want overkill so that I need not worry about a windlass motor heating up resulting in a failure. My windlass is a Maxwell HWC2200 with a lift capacity of 2200#. That is over one ton.

I do agree that I sleep better using a heavier anchor than with one recommended by one who sleeps soundly on shore or in a slip.
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Old 01-31-2019, 11:24 AM   #24
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Rocna recommends NOT using a swivel. I also paint markers on my chain.
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Rocna recommends NOT using a swivel. I also paint markers on my chain.
Nice of them! I find that even with a swivel my chain gets twisted as the boat swings around the anchor.
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Nice of them! I find that even with a swivel my chain gets twisted as the boat swings around the anchor.
The most twist I have had is a quarter turn, no big deal.
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Old 01-31-2019, 11:59 AM   #27
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I think one of the factors that folks don't mention when talking about chain twist is their anchoring depth. Anchoring up here in 60-100' of water your anchor has enough time to spin a bit before it gets to the boat and untwist itself. Anchoring on the ICW in 10' the anchor will be in about the same position at the boat as it was when it broke free.
I don't really notice much chain twist with or without a swivel, but our anchor regularly starts coming over the roller upside down. The weight balance quickly flips it the right way as it comes in, if it didn't I would be looking for a different anchor design. That last little flip is the only real reason I keep our swivel.
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I didn't have my notifications set up correctly here, sorry I'm way late responding.

We have yet to anchor anywhere really rough or go through a really big storm so I can't say for sure. Anchoring on the gulf side of Florida (keep in mind it's oversized) we have to be careful backing down. It sets immediately and snatches hard, if we don't bump in and out of gear we get jerked very hard when the chain goes taught. It sets within 5' of hitting the bottom.

I will say based on our experience with other boats and other anchors, oversized Boss is great. We are dropping 100lb Boss on all 1/2" chain for a 55' classic motor yacht displacing just shy of 70,000lbs and I would trust that anchor setup for anything up to a named hurricane no questions.

If you want specifics pm me, but it is in my experience on par with Spade, Rocna, Mantus, and the other next gen anchors. I actually selling my 85lb Mantus from my previous boat (phenomenal anchor) - the Boss works great and with no roll bar it fits better
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We anchor out 365 days a year and have no swivel and can count on a few fingers the amount of times we've had twist in the last 800 days of anchoring.
More often than not we anchor in tidal current areas (no neighbours) so 180 degree change every 6 hours or so.

We used to get twists regularly in our first 100 days out.
That changed dramatically when I removed the roller and carved a chain groove with a 4 inch grinder whilst onboard.

Twists returned after a big blow slightly stretched the chain, not enough to affect the chain wheel but noticeable twists were evident in the chain and no amount of letting it all hang out could get rid of it.

Chain needed replacing anyway so did that when out several months ago and have had no twists since.
9 times out of 10 I lift the anchor from the wheelhouse and it always comes up straight.
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The most twist I have had is a quarter turn, no big deal.

Twisted chain doesn’t roll properly in my windlass’ gypsy
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Pull the anchor very slowly over the roller and I’ve never needed or wanted a swivel.
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I don't notice any twist. It's nice to have an anchor that can lay either way.
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AusCan, A Navy anchor?
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I still use a 22# High Tensile Danforth and an old school swivel with it.
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Oddly, I started having twist problems when we switched from a Delta to a Rocna. The chain kinks and jams the windlass. Seventy feet of chain and 250' of brait. No Swivel, but I'm considering adding one.


I originally thought it might be the bow roller, since the old one, which split, had a groove and I replaced it with one that did not. So I went back to a grooved roller but it seems like the chain is still twisting.



Last week I took the anchor off the chain, dropped it down to the bottom, then carefully pulled it back in with no twists and reattached the anchor. Hopefully that will work but if it doesn't I guess I should try a swivel?
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If the only change was the anchor, most likely it`s the anchor causing it. Twisted chain in the gypsy is not good. I use an old fashioned figure 8 swivel, I distrust the shiny connector type, after some threads here a while back, bought one but kept it as a paperweight.
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Sure, a better anchor that has dug deeply into the bottom so that it cannot twist as the boat swings around it. That is exactly my experience
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AusCan, A Navy anchor?
It's a Marsh anchor. Built locally in Adelaide for local bottom conditions (weedy limestone).
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AusCan,
HaHa wasn’t far off.
All made out of mild steel I spoze.
What’s your’s weigh?
Looks a bit like my Dreadnought.
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It's a Marsh anchor. Built locally in Adelaide for local bottom conditions (weedy limestone).
So, good in marsh areas?
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