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Old 06-19-2016, 01:40 PM   #1
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Anchor buoy

I would like to put a buoy on my anchor so others will know where mine is and not set on it. I'm thinking of using an anchor buddy line that stretches from 14' to 50' with a buoy on the end of it.anyone use this or have a better idea..thanks
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Old 06-19-2016, 01:52 PM   #2
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Someone posted here a few years back they stopped using one because inexperienced boaters tried using it as a mooring in crowded anchorages. One person succeeded in attaching to it and set them adrift as it was their trip line.
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Old 06-19-2016, 01:56 PM   #3
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Active Captain's deal of the week is for just such an item. Sorry, Can't find the link but someone on the forum must have it. I was going to order it but decided not to for the reason above.
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I have anchored at least 500 times during the several years I cruised full time. I only saw an anchor buoy used once.


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Old 06-19-2016, 02:06 PM   #5
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Are the anchorages that crowded down there?
I'd look for a less popular anchorage.
The waters are so protected down there one could anchor just about anywhere except the middle of a channel. Probably mostly soft bottoms too. I was going to go down there this spring but have'nt made it yet.
Another thought is to set your anchor hard and shorten up close unless wind is in the forecast. But if the guy on either side of you is at 8-1 scope .......

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Yes I used one 3 times in Alaska. Marin was a big fan of anchor bouys. He was also a fan of absolute.
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Old 06-19-2016, 02:12 PM   #6
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not crowed at all.I would like to know where my anchor is and if anything ever happened I would be able to find and retrieve my anchor
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Old 06-19-2016, 02:22 PM   #7
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Every time I'm reading about good seamanship and it comes to anchorage there is advised to use an anchor buoy.
However they are very seldom to be seen here in the Baltics. We used once one of our ball fenders in a crowded anchorage. At the end someone drove over it during the night. Fender jammed between rudder and prop while the trip line ...
Hence we never used an anchor buoy again.



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Old 06-19-2016, 03:30 PM   #8
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In most cases I consider them to be a hazard. When entering an anchorage at night it would be very easy to have one foul your prop. Unless you are anchored in an area with a foul bottom where the float may help in retrieval.


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Old 06-19-2016, 04:23 PM   #9
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Mystic, I have been considering the same thing.
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We cruise full time here on the Atlantic coast. Those buoys are in my mind JV. in crowded anchorages it is normal that you swing over another's anchor. They are just an unnecessary hazard in an anchorage. The one exception might be in an anchorage where you are concerned that the anchor might get snagged. Again, after hundreds and hundreds of anchorages, I have never had that issue or concern. If the anchor does get fouled you can slide a 4 foot loop of chain around your rode and use it to lift the anchor. In the past 5 years I can only recall seeing two people use them. In Solomons last summer someone had one out and another boat fouled it. In GA last fall anchoring in a lot of current. someone anchored close to us with one of those. he knew he was too close. He went to raise his anchor but in the current, he got turned around and he caught it in his own propeller. Please don't use one of those.
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Very good perspective Tadhana, thanks.
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I normally mark my anchor drop point on the plotter. That way I can set up an anchor watch circle or square with the anchor right in the middle. A buoy seems less useful IMHO and as mentioned may well be hazard.
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For over 30 years and a couple of thousand nights at anchor I have always used an anchor float. I want to know where it is all the time. As you swing around in the tide or wind, the anchor can be under you or 100' behind you. I want to be able to tell someone " Hey ! you're about to drop your hook on mine" ... that's happened many times between Ontario and the Bahamas.

My anchor line is just that ... it's not a trip line. My line consists of a plastic milk jug and a very light, cheap dollar store string. I have never fouled the line in my prop and if it did, well it's just a piece of string and won't hurt anything.

For a trip line I have a heavy stainless steel carabiner on four feet of chain and 50' of 1/2" nylon that I clip on my rode and slide down to the anchor.
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not crowed at all.I would like to know where my anchor is and if anything ever happened I would be able to find and retrieve my anchor
Isn't that a bit 'glass half empty' type thinking. I'm with the others. Where my anchor is, is always pretty obvious, because I use a chain counter and know exactly how much I put out, and I'm that far downstream/wind of it. I'd be more worried about someone fouling my anchor by their prop catching up the anchor float, if I used one. As to losing the anchor...not likely...I have Super Sarca. Google it.
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I had a couple of those of different lengths courtesy of a friend who gave them to me when he quit cruising. Used one of them once in hundreds of nights on the hook and never again. We were in a variety of crowded anchorages and saw more potential hazard than good and it was a small PITA to deploy and retrieve. For one thing it restricts the movement of boats through the anchorage. If another boat anchored over ours when we were unaware, we never had an issue getting them to pull forward a bit when we we needed them to.
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Old 06-20-2016, 06:41 AM   #16
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We use one 90+% of the time.

A 3/8 line is tied to the anchor crown and threaded thru an 8 inch red ball , ending in a sounding lead.

When the anchor is let go it drags the line, ball and weight into the water.

In modest depths the setup keeps the ball directly over the set anchor .

Once in 50 years had a sport fish pick up the ball, and anchor all night .

Didn't bother him a bit that his stern was about 7 ft from our bow.

ANCHOR TRIP LINE painted on the ball will help most cruisers if not drunken Sports..
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because I use a chain counter and know exactly how much I put out, and I'm that far downstream/wind of it. I'd be more worried about someone fouling my anchor by their prop catching up the anchor float, if I used one. As to losing the anchor...not likely...I have Super Sarca. Google it.
In a tidal area my boat can rotate 360 degrees while revolving 360 degrees within it's entire scope. My chain counter cannot possibly tell me where the anchor is within that scope and the little piece of string on my milk jug is unlikely to pull out even a CQR or Sarca

How can anyone coming in to the anchorage even guess how much scope I have out or where my anchor is without a float ?

These photos of my milk jug 150' behind me and right at my side (with tidal stream clearly visible) make my point.
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How can anyone coming in to the anchorage even guess how much scope I have out or where my anchor is without a float ?
Apparently it must not be to difficult. Since 90% or more of the vessels anchoring out don't use a float and rarely do boats ever seem to get their anchors tangled up together or have another vessel swing into them.
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Poker wrote;
"How can anyone coming in to the anchorage even guess how much scope I have out or where my anchor is without a float ?"

Lots of ways one can guess w a fair degree of accuracy.
1. One can see where all the other boats are oriented and observe the wind. The anchors will be somewhere upwind.
2. Look at the rodes attached to the bows of the other boats and observe that they are chain or line. With a chain rode and light wind the anchor won't be far upwind or even right in front of the boat but w white nylon line the anchor could (or likely will be) quite a distance upwind.

There are other tell tales but if there's no wind and other boats are oriented every which way you do have a point but one definitely should be able to draw some fairly correct conclusions.

Bill wrote;
"Apparently it must not be to difficult. Since 90% or more of the vessels anchoring out don't use a float and rarely do boats ever seem to get their anchors tangled up together or have another vessel swing into them"
In the shallow waters on the east coast that is probably more true but it's amazing how few troubles occur. Good point.
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