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Old 01-22-2014, 04:39 PM   #81
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Woohoo! - I love the adrenaline rush of taking big risks like not raising the black ball. Living life on the edge.
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Old 01-22-2014, 05:03 PM   #82
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Our local bait-shrimpers don't display the fishing dayshape or "I'm fishing" lights. They sometimes drag an orange ball marking the location of their nets.

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Old 01-29-2014, 11:13 AM   #83
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I usually use my inflatable anchor ball but find many people have no idea what it is. I see these displayed on larger yachts in my area. Defenders Marine sells a folding one made by Plastimo for $14.99
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Old 01-29-2014, 03:47 PM   #84
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If you have ever interviewed a jury after a personal injury or property damage case you would not laugh at the requirement to display an anchor ball. American juries will focus on a deficiency of any type to justify their personal preferences as to who should win the case or the amount to be paid.
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Your honor, I did have an anchor ball displayed but it went overboard and sank because of the collision.
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Your honor, I did have an anchor ball displayed but it went overboard and sank because of the collision.
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Old 01-29-2014, 07:44 PM   #87
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The whole point is to prevent collisions...not try and explain your way out of your responsibility for one...

As I posted before ....besides the regs, they are as much a courtesy to other boats to allow them to make intelligent, early maneuvers in some situations.
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This vessel "turned off" the day shape by holding it horizontal.

Yeah…! The nautical version of the tin man..!

As to the hanging symbol issue. I think these rules are slowly being allowed to die a natural death, certainly here in Oz, by unwritten agreement to not police, because so few pleasure boats these days have the rigging structures to facilitate them being used.
After all, at night there is the anchor light, and absence of running lights to advise, and during the day I have never had an issue discerning if a boat is underway or anchored well before I get near it…not ever. And if there is a poor visibility issue, e.g. fog/heavy rain, then you won't see the ball, but hopefully they have followed the simple rule of putting appropriate lights on, which you probably will see - certainly more likely than a black ball.
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Old 01-30-2014, 06:47 AM   #89
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While an anchor ball may be an unknown signal device to 99% of boaters , actually being seen should work at collision avoidance.

3M makes consopicuaty tape that is a requirement on all commercial trailers .

At night it works great and can be had in alternating red and white , or just white.

At about a buck a foot if placed along the hull under the rail , it would light the dimmest operator to the presence of a boat.

Cheaper than a court battle , even at a buck a foot.
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........ As to the hanging symbol issue. I think these rules are slowly being allowed to die a natural death, ...........
I think we can equate this regulation (as far as pleasure boats go anyway) to the requirement that was in place when I got my driver's license that the driver of a car or truck stick his or her arm out the window and signal right or left turns or stop.
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I think we can equate this regulation (as far as pleasure boats go anyway) to the requirement that was in place when I got my driver's license that the driver of a car or truck stick his or her arm out the window and signal right or left turns or stop.
Yep...if you have working taillights and blinkers...no need to signal with your hand....BUT if they aren't or riding a bike...you are legally required to use hand signals...so till they come up with another requirement (and the anchor ball has survived recent NAVRULE changes unlike the "fishing basket dayshape")

Fight the concept all you want ....but opinion is not the law, whether enforced or not...plus it just plain rude to other experienced boaters, whether you think so or not....

after thinking some more...it's really funny the concept is being looked at from the wrong point...maybe it's not so much that the rec boater easily sees that other boats are anchored...it's for the commercial guy pushing even a small crane barge in and around a small boats anchored (not a special anchorage) and by seeing the anchor balls early on, he can make wise decisions out further because of his tow possibly restricting his maneuvering/sight picture....
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The reflective safety tape works great for both light and radar.
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I think we can equate this regulation... to the requirement that was in place when I got my driver's license that the driver of a car or truck stick his or her arm out the window and signal right or left turns or stop.
The only sure conclusion from a driver`s hand signal: The window is down.
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Try this hand signal:

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I think I will paint my satellite TV dome black, and leave it at that.
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Never observed even one anchor day-shape displayed among scores of boats anchored in San Francisco Bay enjoying Fleet Week.









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That should work great for Moonstruck. If it ain't going 20+ knots the smart money bet is it's anchored
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I think I will paint my satellite TV dome black, and leave it at that.

So while underway you will display > I am Anchored < at all times?

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...had one on all my sailboats but haven't gotten around to one for this boat....
The question in my mind is; Above is your first post on the subject but since then, you've been harping on how it's the law and everyone should be following the law.

So - since you state that you don't have an anchor ball for your current boat, does that mean you never anchor in daylight or does it mean that you too are ignoring the law?

My point in starting this thread was not to ask if you're supposed to show an anchor ball, I already knew that. My point was that in my experience, that particular part of the regulations is universally ignored and I wondered if others had the same experience. Apparently they do.

Again, with the exception of sailboats and some trawlers, most recreational boats have no provision for displaying or storing an anchor ball.

I have my boat inspected by the Power Squadron each year and while they check for anchor and running lights,, they never mention an anchor ball. The safety class I took years ago did not mention an anchor ball.
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