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Old 07-23-2014, 03:28 AM   #21
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Peter,
I have a Lowrance SDS 7" with side scan on my fly fishing centre console but I am looking more at the 12/ 15 " black box type set up with radar and sounder. Most likely 2 screens so that not too much screen splitting.
I have a new top of the range Airmar 2 kw bronze thru hull transducer that I will fit next time at GCCM.
Initially this will be with my Furuno sounder but eventually I hope via the black box to my new screens on the dash.
I have been dealing with Tony at EMS @ GCCM, they are agents for all 3 brands but am interested in input from guys on the forum to back up some of my own decisions.

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Old 07-23-2014, 08:00 AM   #22
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You might consider a PC based Nav setup. Inside your helm area you would not need waterproof & daylight viewable screens ie very expensive ones in large sizes.

I'm using Nobeltec Trident, and Aquabelle has MaxSea Explorer. They are now part of the same French company, in turn half owned by Furuno and the software is virtually identical other than for logos. So both brands take Furuno DRS radar's. Its nice having a 24" screen for Nav, and of course easy to add a second screen if you want to display IP camera's or engine feeds. I would think to give 48V to the radar you need either one of the Furuno MFD's or a separate 48V power supply. The radar signal etc is just a Cat5 ethernet cable so easy to plug into the PC.

The software came with two licenses, so I have a desktop PC with the big screen on when running, and to save power use a laptop 13" for anchor watch. Easy to run both at the same time also. So can have split screen Nav on the 24" screen and radar on the laptop. I was going to attach some schematics, but they have graphic icons in them and its a 23MB file, so no dice. These are still a work in progress, but PM me your email and I can try sending a page at a time. Or let me know if you are in Brissy soon. I'm at Dockside now. The idea is to show what is connected where and what the bits look like, to make it easy for guest crew to understand the setup. These schematics complement, not replace, the CAD drawings I have for the boat systems.

OK, I can add a couple of the pages as the file size is OK.
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Old 07-23-2014, 08:35 AM   #23
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Brian,
I am running a PC based system using Nobeltec Trident and have used PC based systems on Tidahapah since 1995.
I am upgrading (!!!) as I think the newer systems are better on smaller boats , they have come a long way.
I introduced our tanker fleet to PC based systems after I had my own up and running on Tidahapah, in those days I was running C Plot from Trymax , I then went to Tsunami, ( in my opinion was the best system going) and after they discontinued support for cruising systems changed over to Nobeltec about 8 years ago.
With the intergrated systems I just feel they set up a bit better in the smaller space I have.
This is going to be a work in progress and probably will not come to fruition until after I return from Tassie next year.
Yes I must have a better look at your system and see how you have it set up.
I am heading down to Brisbane tomorrow and flying north on Sunday.
If I get a chance I will ring you and have a quick visit if that is OK.
Will probably talk tomorrow.

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Old 07-23-2014, 06:20 PM   #24
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I'll be down at the boat for a lot of the day I expect.... Be ready for a coffee break whenever is convenient.

Not quite sure where you want to end up with the 'integrated system'? eg I control the Furuno radar from within Trident, which seems pretty integrated to me.
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Benn: I have a full Furuno NN3D install, from my 2009 re-fit. Service and support OUT OF THE USA is superb....poor locally in my experience. That aside, if I were doing it all again today, I'd go Garmin in a heartbeat. Their technology has jumped ahead of Furuno; the Australian charts & satellite imagery are better; the pricing is very attractive relative to Furuno. I cannot speak to local service/support. Interestingly, the couple who run the ActiveCaptain crowd-sourcing site -- and who must be two of the most tech savvy AND pragmatic users around -- recently chose Garmin.
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Back to the Boat Show: I went yesterday (Friday) with the Admiral in tow. On-water boat display much reduced in size/number of boats, but we still enjoyed seeing the GB 54 (favourite layout/styling); a Maritimo 50 (have to admire the stylish fitout, though not to our personal taste); the Greenline 48 (weird drive technology, attractive fitout). Ferry trip from Darling Harbour to Glebe via Captain Cook Cruises operating at dead idle frustratingly slow, but at least the services are frequent. Display hall at Glebe Island is huge but not as well laid out as at old Convention Centre, with the various booths more scattered between acres of trailer boats which were of no interest to us. Some big exhibitors at Sanctuary Cove still missing from Sydney, like Dometic & BLA...so no air con or refrigeration to see (seems odd at a boat show). Crowds on Friday were a good size from a visitor perspective, ie easily tolerable. Exhibitors told us numbers were really poor Thursday and they were happy to see so many more people Friday. Weather forecast not great for this weekend, will be interesting to see how it all goes.
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Wow, if Sydney is missing exhibitors compared to Sanctuary Cove then it would be a disappointing event. I wonder which Australian show has the best industry support?

Did you check out the plastic/fake teak caprails on the Fleming?
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We are going today, eta midday. Weather here is cool but fine, forecast to stay that way all day. I`ve a few things circled to check out, not planning on getting the cheque(check) book out though.
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Quick BoatShow report. I really just looked at Integrity 380, Kadey Krogen 48, Symbol 50. Last 2 in a different class to the Integrity, the KK superior and near 2x the price of the Symbol, accommodation/features similar, clearly one is an ocean crosser, the other a coastal cruiser. That said, the Integrity 380 FB seems good value for $.
The build quality and "solidity" of the KK is obvious, I see why our US friends admire them, and applaud the Dauntless voyage. I met Larry Polster of KK, their first exhibiting in Sydney, they will be in Brisbane with an older used 42ft boat for sale too, around 200K. He knew about Dauntless, said there is another KK42 crossing the Pacific. Very proud he was too.
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