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Old 01-06-2018, 06:47 PM   #41
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Those "old" Beavers are the workhorse of the Gulf Islands here in BC. Though designed in the 40s and production by De Haviland ceased in the 50s, .
Last one in 1967, with a total run of 1657, according to Wikipedia.
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Old 01-17-2018, 01:32 AM   #42
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The Sydney Seaplanes company recommenced flights today, using Cessna aircraft. Not using their remaining De Havilland similar to the one lost,pending the Inquiry findings. Air crash inquiries move slowly here,may take as long as a year.
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Old 01-30-2018, 07:43 PM   #43
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This is the ABC Network report issued today. It refers to an Interim Inquiry Report, but it is cluttered with comment making it difficult to distinguish Report from other material.
Sydney Seaplane crash pilot's actions were 'totally inexplicable', says boss - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
The comment about a sharp turn seems to relate to a turn made immediately before the crash, not an inexplicable prior left turn off the main waterway into Jerusalem Bay. Along with others on TF I have never seen a seaplane enter Jerusalem Bay, I suspect that is key to resolving the Inquiry. At this stage the Inquiry is reported as seeking more crash witness information, and discovering what the plane did between landing at Cottage Pt. and picking up the doomed pax.
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Old 02-03-2018, 01:33 AM   #44
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I found this news article,it repeats some previous reporting but contains a much better crash location pic, and illustrates the surrounding areas a number of Aussie TFers frequent. You can see the steep sided almost fjord like features of the river,how well preserved it is despite being 20 miles N of a city of 5 million,and how untouched it remains. It`s why we love cruising and being there.
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...39b-1517642787
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Seems to have a pay wall.
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Old 02-03-2018, 05:28 PM   #46
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Seems to have a pay wall.
I was able to read it, but I subscribe to the wretched excuse for a newspaper. Short of publishing my login here,which I`d better not,I can`t fix it. Unfortunate, it was informative,but sadly not "free".
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Old 02-03-2018, 05:30 PM   #47
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Does this work? Looks like it, see how descriptive the illustration is:
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Old 12-21-2018, 12:25 AM   #48
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Here`s an update news report: https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/...20-p50ncl.html.
Compare the different flight path now revealed using a passengers photos, to that shown in post 47 above. The plane was following a not uncommon take off path, but made a sharp unusual turn back, before tracking up Jerusalem Bay to the crash site opposite Pinta Bay.
In fairness,some time ago,gaston flagged that the Inquiry was looking at possible medical issues following autopsy.
It seems,despite its years, the plane was in well maintained serviceable condition.
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Just found this on the ABC News Site. A long time coming and still not final. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-...river/12419706
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Summarizing, in case the article is unavailable later, apparently there was evidence of carbon monoxide poisoning in pilot/passengers. Missing bolts in the firewall were noted as leaving holes where the CO might have entered. Apparently there was no CO detector, which might have given warning.

(So Mark, you were right that this may not have happened if it had twin engines, but not for the reason of having a "spare" engine for mechanical difficulty.)
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Good thought Frosty.
Interestingly, Gaston(an engineer), said (with delightful vagueness, prior to taking up "Paint Scraping") that he understood those onboard were likely dead before the plane hit the water. Gaston knew a thing or two.
Something similar happened with early VW Beetles. A warm air supply for the cabin was constructed around an exhaust manifold. A leak in the manifold could blend CO2 into the air, hey presto, sleepy occupants. Not the best heat exchanger.
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A News report of the final results of the Inquiry.
As expected, the cause was carbon monoxide poisoning of the pilot. It`s unclear when the plane was last serviced, but the Operators are lining up the Maintenance Engineers.
Photos taken by a passenger were very useful to the Inquiry.

Hopefully some good comes out of it in future prevention. A CO2 detector is an obvious step. Not combing a cracked defective exhaust with holes in the firewall speaks for itself. I wonder how the plane flew from Sydney to Cottage Point without incident, and why the issue only materialized immediately after take off for the post lunch return flight. And, when it was last serviced.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-...m-bay/13102834
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