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Old 05-16-2017, 10:24 AM   #21
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OK, both AT&T and Verizon charge surcharges when you call an Iridium, Globalstar or Thuraya satellite phone, varying from $5 - $14 bucks a minute. This is cellular and wireless calling inbound to a sat phone. WHY? because they can. No rhyme or reason why, since it is simply another call to a phone number, but they have added a surcharge to the block of #'s allocated to satphone carriers.

Your satphone charges are per minute, and on some plans, outbound calls only.

That's why Iridium has it's own inbound gateway, so caller's won't get hit by the surcharges to Iridium satphone customers.
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Old 05-16-2017, 05:51 PM   #22
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It's because it's an international call, regardless of where the sat phone is actually located. So all calls to those sat phones ate international calls at international rates.

Most providers offer a domestic number than you can call, and from there dial the sat phone with no extra charge. And KVH goes a step further and gives each phone a domestic number.

BTW! The sat providers have their own unique country code.
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Old 05-16-2017, 07:20 PM   #23
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Sorry TwistedTree, Iridium phones have a New Mexico number by default.

You could be in NM with your satphone, but it works anywhere...

I programmed our phone system to identify our sat phones, dial the NM 2 stage dialing number and then dial the satphone number, and saved a ton of $$$

But then, our company got paid to spend Govt money, so it wound up costing some profit It's a bad position to be in, to do the right thing, save taxpayer money, and cost corporate profit... I still did the right thing.
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Old 05-16-2017, 08:12 PM   #24
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Isn't the NM number the one you call for two stage dialing? Plus there is an international number for direct dialing?

That's how my iridium worked, as I recall.

My KVH, which is what I use now, had a domestic direct dial number.
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Old 05-16-2017, 08:20 PM   #25
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Right, they have a domestic number, but the carrier's know who owns various blocks of numbers, and assess a surcharge for Iridium, Globecomm, inmarsat and thurya inbound calls. Anyone who calls those numbers, pays a surcharge. This was 5 years ago and was all phone carriers I queried. I didn't try KVH since that wasn't our business.

For some reason, a local provider Satcom Direct had their OneNumber service that would let people reach you with a single number, and ring multiple destinations, including satphones, and their aircraft equipped satphone customers. They were one of our approved vendors and always provided great service. It's been 5 years and they seem to have been going through a growth spurt...

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Old 05-16-2017, 08:33 PM   #26
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Huh, i don't think we ever got a surcharge for calling the NM number, and I haven't hear of them in the past few years. Is it possible they stopped doing that?
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Old 05-16-2017, 08:42 PM   #27
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it might have happened... but i've never seen an IXC or RBOC walk away from profit...

Better go check the weather in hell... it might have frozen over.
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Old 05-17-2017, 12:30 AM   #28
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Ooooooh - you lucky dog. I'd love to join you.
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Wxx3......did u use the Inreach weather reports while out in the middle of the Atlantic .........

Oc Diver......have you used the weather reports
To make a long story short, I finally figured out that in a boat that goes 135 nm/day, with a low pressure system that moves at 500 nm/day, it was not worth the effort to look at weather.

So yes, I looked at weather all the time form the InReach and I liked that they added the feature to not only use your current location, but you can input a different Lat/Long.
However, as I said, it made no difference, so this last trip, I really only requested the weather when I was bored and wanted to see how accurate it was.

I found what I expected, the accuracy was plus or minus 30 degrees and 50% of the wind speed, meaning that if the fcst was 20 knots, the speeds were between 15 and 25, but on some occasions, 10 to 30.

But I find the InReach most useful to communicate and occasionally ask someone to check specific info for me, e.g.: best port in this direction, what to do when you run out of hydraulic fluid, etc.

Lastly, I liked knowing that if attacked my pirates, I did have a quick means to SOS.

I would not leave the coast without it.
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question to ..... Tidahapah and Eagle419

What Predictwind subscription are you guys using as there are three types (besides the free one)

eagle419 as your weather download took eight mins. were you downloading everything possible to take that long?

The iridium go looks the go for me.
Along with the sat. unlimited data by the month subscription

Predictwind is awesome looking app. I have the trial version running on my Windows notebook and on the Android mobile.
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Old 05-22-2017, 12:02 AM   #31
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Mate, I am on the standard package and it works for me.
Like you say it is awesome package and ticks the boxes for me.
I am about to restart my Iridium package for the offshore season.
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What Predictwind subscription are you guys using as there are three types (besides the free one)

eagle419 as your weather download took eight mins. were you downloading everything possible to take that long?

As to speeds, I only downloaded grib files via satellite a couple of times crossing Bass Strait, but with more flying hours I'm sure I can narrow down the amount of info I need.

My first test download after installation took about 35 minutes! So practice before departure is a good move I reckon.

BTW Predictwind support is excellent
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Here's a good, recent comparison on a blog comparing HF radio vs a sat phone. The sat phone wins for this families needs.

Offshore Communications: Satellite or SSB? | Sailing Totem
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