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Old 04-23-2016, 11:51 PM   #21
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Yes, glued down with tons of sika, needed a hammer and chisel to lift them! Just as well they were all useless! Took about 3 hours to get them off the roof then the parts not covered by the new panels needed to be cleaned up 😕
My Unipolar flexible panels have, and still are giving great service. Would it have been possible to just tie/fix the flexible panels down using the plastic toggles like one can use for canvas, through eye-holes, which were in the corners and halfway along each side with my Unisolars, and is what I did, so I could insert something under them to raise them off the deck for some air circ underneath.
Sikaflexing them down flat to the deck sounds like not a great way to install any panel, flexible or not, unless they specified that as acceptable..?
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Old 04-24-2016, 12:15 AM   #22
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Do the flexible panels have bypass diodes, which I've read help negate some of the effects due to partial shading from cables, lines, boom, etc?
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Hi Peter, agree, there was no need to sika them down. Your idea would have saved me a few dollars on the removal!
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Do the flexible panels have bypass diodes, which I've read help negate some of the effects due to partial shading from cables, lines, boom, etc?
If that was addressed to me, and you meant diodes to stop DC leak-back when unpowered by shade or at night? - yes.

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Old 04-24-2016, 01:46 AM   #25
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Hi Peter, agree, there was no need to sika them down. Your idea would have saved me a few dollars on the removal!

Hickers, you might have had a bad flexible solar panel experience, but you have a boat to die for, so I hope that helps soften the blow. If I win Powerball, I'm getting me one of those...

http://www.clippermotoryachts.com/clipper-cordova-45/
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Old 04-24-2016, 04:14 AM   #26
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My flexibles were/are stuck down with the super strong adhesive backing that is supplied as an extra. so far no probs.
May change my controller to a Victron unit with the mobile app like Hickers.
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Benn, Victron 100/50 with Bluetooth about $540 total. Outback marine price matched an Australian on line seller. Interesting to see amps in real time.
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Thanks Peter, we have been pleased with our Clipper and we have been on board full time for 7 months total. Aways would be nice to have a bigger boat but with that comes bigger $$!!
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Yes, Jim said he will match any on line price , so will let him do the supply.
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Conventional rigid panels need an inch or so of airspace underneath for cooling air circulation. Do flexibles not need that?
I screwed teak mounts to my rigid panels and sikaflexed the teak to the teak, rather than screw it on. Avoiding the double whammy of breaching the FB deck and flexing the rigid panels due to possible surface unevenness.
Hickers, love that Clipper 45, my current "next boat" ambition is a Clipper 40(MT40).
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Conventional rigid panels need an inch or so of airspace underneath for cooling air circulation. Do flexibles not need that?
I screwed teak mounts to my rigid panels and sikaflexed the teak to the teak, rather than screw it on. Avoiding the double whammy of breaching the FB deck and flexing the rigid panels due to possible surface unevenness.
Hickers, love that Clipper 45, my current "next boat" ambition is a Clipper 40(MT40).

Thanks Bruce, They are lovely boats and very good in not so nice weather.
In regard to flex panels they can be attached direct to the deck however as panel temperature climbs output falls. I went for flex to keep a low profile and avoid the weight of glass. Buying cheap panels was a mistake but the best ones are 3 times the price!
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Thanks Bruce, They are lovely boats and very good in not so nice weather.
In regard to flex panels they can be attached direct to the deck however as panel temperature climbs output falls. I went for flex to keep a low profile and avoid the weight of glass. Buying cheap panels was a mistake but the best ones are 3 times the price!
Hickers, I'm sorry, but I gotta say this. There is a saying, "to spoil the ship for a ha'peth of tar"...

After all, you have a Clipper 45...a new Clipper 45, ok..? 'nuff said..?
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I gotta say I have the chinese flex panels, laid on the wheelhouse top , glued down with high strength bonding agent, slim line connection boxes, well wired and sealed. 4 of these couples with a similar sized pair of Al framed panels. All are doing well after a few years service. With the fitting of the new regulator I will get a better view of the output on a daily basis and have a better understanding of their output.
At present they appear to be doing their job, time will tell.
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