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Old 07-07-2012, 12:39 PM   #101
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I have to applaud your tenacity but I sure don't understand your need for self deprecation with another Xantrex unit. You can dress a pig up in fancy clothes but it's still a pig. Chuck
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Old 07-07-2012, 01:47 PM   #102
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I have to applaud your tenacity but I sure don't understand your need for self deprecation with another Xantrex unit. You can dress a pig up in fancy clothes but it's still a pig. Chuck
Well you are probably right. One thing for sure, if they replace the failed unit, I will have a band new in box for sale at a very attractive price.

On the other hand, I have been impressed with the guys that have gotten good service out of their Xantrex units. I know they may have oder ones, but nevertheless Xantrex must have done some things right.

By the way Capn. Chuck I have a question for you. When I got the charger home and broke it down, I discovered it was the cooling fan that was bad and not the controller. So, I found one on the internet and ordered it. Like an idiot I did not note the direction the fan operated. Did it take air in through the grill cover on the front or exhaust it there. In other words, was it a pusher or a puller. I will send the question to Xantrex, but who knows when they will get around to it.

Thanks.
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Well you are probably right. One thing for sure, if they replace the failed unit, I will have a band new in box for sale at a very attractive price.

When I got the charger home and broke it down, I discovered it was the cooling fan that was bad and not the controller. So, I found one on the internet and ordered it. Like an idiot I did not note the direction the fan operated. Did it take air in through the grill cover on the front or exhaust it there. In other words, was it a pusher or a puller. I will send the question to Xantrex, but who knows when they will get around to it.

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Don, I just turned on my POC Xantex and put a tissue to the fan. The fan sucks air into the unit, expelling the air out the vents.

I'd be interested in that Xantrex unit if you are going to sell it.
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All of my chargers pull air into the units. Chuck
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Old 07-07-2012, 02:55 PM   #105
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Don, I just turned on my POC Xantex and put a tissue to the fan. The fan sucks air into the unit, expelling the air out the vents..
Perhaps that's why they seem to fail so often!

Equipment cooling fans usually pull air through the unit and exhaust it at the fan. Maybe they are installing the fans backwands.
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Be sure the inverter box air inlets and exhaust outlet(s) are unobstructed. My Xantrex unit is mounted with exhaust fan outlet on top, tnat makes sense since heat rises. The cooler the location the better as many/most inverters have a high temperature cutoff.
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Perhaps that's why they seem to fail so often!

Equipment cooling fans usually pull air through the unit and exhaust it at the fan. Maybe they are installing the fans backwands.
Our equipment bays on our planes have vent fans mounted low and large vents mounted high. This allows the fans to pull in cool air down low and exhaust the hot air high. We had an overheating issue one time in flight and landed. We learned that the mechanic had reinstalled the vent fan backwards, greatly reducing the cooling effectiveness.

My Xantrex inverter and ProTech charger both operate the same way, pulling air into the unit.
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We all know that manufacturers/engineers experts are the go to guys when things work the way we want them to...at least for us...but aren't qualified for anything if the products fails more often than we would like.
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Our equipment bays on our planes have vent fans mounted low and large vents mounted high. This allows the fans to pull in cool air down low and exhaust the hot air high. We had an overheating issue one time in flight and landed. We learned that the mechanic had reinstalled the vent fan backwards, greatly reducing the cooling effectiveness.
Flywright are you blonde? We are talking boats here not air planes. The physics is different on an airplane. The high altitude air is thinner and lighter. It doesn't react in the same manner as on a boat where the air may be slightly below sea level.
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Flywright are you blonde? We are talking boats here not air planes. The physics is different on an airplane. The high altitude air is thinner and lighter. It doesn't react in the same manner as on a boat where the air may be slightly below sea level.

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Perhaps its time for a new fridge that will cut the daily amps required by 2/3 or 5/6 ?

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Don, does it look like this?



I made the mistake of inviting the PG's aboard yesterday afternoon before I finished installing a new subwoofer on the FB and speaker control panel at the lower helm. They saw the 35 year old spider web of wires hiding behind my lower helm engine gages panel. I think I heard a thinly disguised gasp from Jennifer when she saw it. I'm so embarrassed!!
Flywright, your picture did not show. Get Ben to teach you how to post pictures. He's real good.

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Flywright, your picture did show. Get Ben to teach you how to post pictures. He's real good.
Moonman,

Here's what I meant to post on Post #100.

Really, I'm not blonde anymore. Now it's grey and thinning.
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Moonman,

Here's what I meant to post on Post #100.

Really, I'm not blonde anymore. Now it's grey and thinning.
Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
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Here's what I meant to post on Post #100.

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"Perhaps that's why they seem to fail so often! "

Many electric items fail because folks think they are an "install & forget" item like a light switch in their dirt home.

Maint is required as a device that can draw hundreds of amps is very subject to problems from feeder corrosion or a poor ground.

When do most folks go over the DC system , even after a unit has failed?

Almost NEVER!

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Xantrex LinkPro Battery Monitor. I also monitor the inverter output via a Kill-a-Watt meter. I don't have the whole boat wired through the inverter, just to a single power strip in the galley.

Edelweiss, yes, mine is a Xantrex XPower 1000. My heaviest draw is my 800W coffee pot. The microwave is about 625W. The most I saw on the fridge is 8.5W!!
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I was surprised how quiet it runs. With just the fridge on the inverter the fan doesn't even run. I was a little concerned about cooling having it in an enclosed space, but as you experienced, it runs very cool. Thanks for the tip!!

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Here's what I meant to post on Post #100.

Really, I'm not blonde anymore. Now it's grey and thinning.
That's quality wiring right there.
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Well, that's it for me with Xantrex. They backed up on my deal that took weeks to work out. Now, they told me since it was July 24 that the unit was now out of warranty, and they will do nothing about it.

I am glad that some of you guys have had a good experience with them. As for me, all Xantrex is going to be off my boat. I will not be dealing with them anymore.

I think the idea of cheap throw away units is a good one. Most electronics are now made in China anyway, so I'll just take my chances.
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[QUOTE=Moonstruck;95804]Well, that's it for me with Xantrex. They backed up on my deal that took weeks to work out. Now, they told me since it was July 24 that the unit was now out of warranty, and they will do nothing about it..../QUOTE]

Don: WTF? You started dialog with these guys back in mid June. And now it's out of warranty? I'm ....
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