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Old 11-29-2019, 03:20 PM   #1
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Wooden Frame for Electrical Box

I need to install a 110-V receptacle in our saloon. The wall cavity is too shallow for a conventional box carrying a gfci so Iím looking for a wooden frame that will allow the box to protrude from the wall a bit. Iíve tried shallow plastic boxes and thereís not enough room for the number of wires I need to run (it will be feeding another outlet.).

There are a couple on the boat that the builder custom-made (see photo), but Iíd rather find one than have it fabricated. I saw one on eBay, but itís too thick to fit in the space I have available . . . and itís in Thailand.

Anyone know of a domestic source?
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Old 11-29-2019, 03:41 PM   #2
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There are many types of surface mounted duplex receptacles available that may work. I have used a few and brought the wire into the back. Just an option for what it's worth.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Eaton-Ivory...B&gclsrc=aw.ds
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Old 11-29-2019, 04:08 PM   #3
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Yup a surface mount box, painted,
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Old 11-29-2019, 04:14 PM   #4
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Anybody with basic woodworking skills should be able to make the extension.
I bet a picture frame shop could put something together.
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Old 11-29-2019, 04:33 PM   #5
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This was my solution, grey Lowe's box painted.
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Check at an RV dealer.
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Try these guys:
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Good stuff, guys. Thanks.
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Ian: Are you looking the same one as in the picture you posted? I may have one in storage. Give me a day or so to dig through some boxes if it is.
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Why not build a couple of them? 4 cuts, a little bit of sanding, varnishing, done.
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Ian: Are you looking the same one as in the picture you posted? I may have one in storage. Give me a day or so to dig through some boxes if it is.
Larry, yes, that would be ideal. If you have one could you give me the dimensions? It would need to be at least 1.5Ē deep to accommodate the GFCI and wiring. Thanks so much!
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Why not build a couple of them? 4 cuts, a little bit of sanding, varnishing, done.
Thatís probably going to be the fallback next week. I tried a plastic surface mount today, and Iím not thrilled with the look.

I hooked up the flat screen temporarily the other day and the fit in the available wall space is really good. The wall-hugging bracket holds it very close and itís directly across from the recliners. The new outlet for the tv power cord is in the storage locker. Today I pulled the power and HDMI cables behind the wall but ran out of time before I could finish. The shallow outlet Iím trying to ďextendĒ from is all the way forward, just to the left of the windshield.
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Just curious....why a GFI? And is it the only one in the circuit? First? Last? Middle?
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Just curious....why a GFI? And is it the only one in the circuit? First? Last? Middle?
Middle, so it only protects itself and the new outlet for the TV which is downstream. The first one in this circuit is even more problematic to replace. Maybe overkill, but whenever I replace an outlet I use a GFCI, unless it’s already protected upstream.
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Guessing you saw this one (in thailand):
https://www.ebay.com/itm/TEAK-WOOD-E...e/223644781231

It is a simple bit of mitering. From plain old wood stock it's really not much work. Use a round-over router bit to get the desired profile and then cut four mitered pieces to fit around whatever size box you're using. Some boats use US style boxes, others might use EU sizes (like Italian ones from Vimar).

Given that location if you're making a box it'd be tempting to add more. Maybe a 12v accessory socket, to allow using DC adapters without AC power (genset/shore).
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I bought some of the ones on ebay and they are fine, well finished, but not fine artisan craftsmanship. But for the money And time I would not bother trying to make my own.
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I’m a woodworker in my spare time and have made all kinds of things out of teak but I might buy a couple of those boxes off of eBay just in case. For $15 bucks (and probably $10 worth of teak) it’s not worth my time to make them.

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Larry, yes, that would be ideal. If you have one could you give me the dimensions? It would need to be at least 1.5Ē deep to accommodate the GFCI and wiring. Thanks so much!
Ian: Sorry, itís an 1-1/8Ē deep. The bottom has a notch where wires came up through a counter to enter the box. Itís yours for the price of postage if itíll work.
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Ian: Sorry, itís an 1-1/8Ē deep. The bottom has a notch where wires came up through a counter to enter the box. Itís yours for the price of postage if itíll work.
Larry, I really appreciate you taking the time to look. With the number of wires in the box and the size of the GFCI, Iím going to need more cubic inches than that will allow, unfortunately. I think Iím going to go with a plastic surface-mount initially until I can get the time to make one out of teak after the holidays.

Thank you again . . . and thanks to everyone who offered suggestions.
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Greetings,
Mr. 99. How about a plastic surface mount clad in teak veneer? Just a thought. Might be able to buy off cuts somewhere. A bit of glue and VIOLA!
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