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Old 12-17-2015, 02:40 PM   #21
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I don't know about Costco as we don't have one here, but Sam's has GC-2 branded Energizer and they are made by East Penn in this part of the country, they are very close to Trojan's quality wise by all reports I have seen.

What I learned is some places have a flat rate core charge (Sam's, Walmart) of $15 but the CG batt's will yield $25 at several battery shops (more lead then car battery) so I pay the core one place and return them to another and make a bit of profit.
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Old 12-17-2015, 04:42 PM   #22
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I think you will find the Sam's Club Energizers to also be a Johnson Controls product. They are a great product, popular in these parts.

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Old 12-17-2015, 04:57 PM   #23
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For some rason, I thought the Costco batteries were Interstate. Are those also Johnson Controls in heritage?
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Old 12-17-2015, 06:47 PM   #24
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For some rason, I thought the Costco batteries were Interstate. Are those also Johnson Controls in heritage?
They are. Interstate is a marketing brand that doesn't manufacture themselves but resells JCI. They (JCI) are the largest battery manufacturer in America, and their stuff is sold under lots of different marks.

It's been a couple of years since I bought mine, and given that Costco is basically a consignment store, I hit up Google to see if anything had changed. Apparently some stores have gone from Kirkland badged batteries to Interstate badged. It's still the same battery made in the same factory.

While it may not be the highest quality battery around, it's still a very good one and the best bang for the buck. I'd go Costco again (although hopefully I won't have to any time soon.)
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I think you will find the Sam's Club Energizers to also be a Johnson Controls product. They are a great product, popular in these parts.

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I was wrong the batteries I have are Duracell if that makes a difference.

Two years ago the batteries Sam's sold were made by East Penn, I verified this by calling them and was told this to be the case. I bought 8 of them at this time and they are performing well. I do understand that this is an "up for bid" item and as you showed they may be now made by JCI and have the Duracell label stuck on them.

I don't believe there is much difference in then and as you stated they are a respected name in batteries. I would have no problem purchasing JCI.

Thanks for the information.
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Old 12-18-2015, 05:55 AM   #26
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Angus99, I had great service out of a set of 4 traditional flooded US Battery L16s, a bit taller than those delivering 425AH each. Look forward to seeing how your AGMs do.
Me, too, George. We're out of the water until Spring getting the steering rebuilt and a number of other things. Another guy I know used L16s on a similarly laid out ER to mine with great success. I wanted to maximize space above for other stuff.

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Good addition for those wanting AGMs.

When not at the dock how will the new AGM batteries get recharged - size and model of alternators or genset via inverter or both or ??

Also where in your ER will these be mounted?
Sunchaser, we have a Westerbeke 12.5 KW genset, which we're going to supplement with solar. I'm also upgrading the alternators to 100-amp units and adding new Balmar smart regulators, Centerfielder and Digital Duo. I've also installed a Magnum 2812 inverter charger. The system should be pretty flexible when we get through.

The original battery banks used to be outboard of the main engines (tiny white blocks in the drawing), and they were the only thing I did not like about the ER layout. They blocked access to one side of each engine and you had to be a gorilla reaching over an engine to remove the two 8Ds that were on each side.

The new house bank will be on the platform behind the port engine. These platforms are very robust--the starboard one holds the 720-lb Westerbeke and I consulted with the Defever builder, Wilson Lin, before deciding to put the 840-lb house bank on the opposite side. The new location is also closer to the centerline.



I reinforced the platform still further and the wall beside it. Then built a grid of oak 1 X 1s to keep the batteries in place. (The water heater is in a temporary location.)






The reinforced lid will press down on the top of the battery housings (NOT the terminals) with the downforce coming from turnbuckles. The lid will also be affixed to the wall. I know a guy who did his house bank this way and it works well.



This is as far as I've gotten so far with 4 of the 8 305s in place. The water heater is now lower and wall-mounted to accomodate the Magnum.

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Good work and thanks. Our ER layout is similar with your original. Except we have 4 T105s per side resulting in 2/3 or so the house bank capacity compared to your new setup. I can only imagine the gorilla work with yarding the 8Ds around.

We haven't seen the need for solar panels but can see the gain if spending lots of time at anchor. Our journey's tend to be more engine op hours per day maybe and seldom stay at anchor more than one night. To whit, our main engines have 3 times the hours of the genset's.
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That's interesting, a friend of ours with that same Defever hull did virtually the same exact thing in that very same location. Same inverter too! He used Full River AGM L16s. He also installed a large solar panel set up, and has been very happy overall with the results, having cruised the boat extensively.
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Nice job Angus.......
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Old 12-19-2015, 08:02 AM   #30
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Thanks, guys.

George, I'm pretty sure your friend (SG?) is one of my mentors. His Defever 44+5 has a very similar layout and he's done some really innovative work with his systems. His house bank and solar install are things of beauty from the pictures he shared. Great guy who's been really helpful to a neophyte--as so many on the TF and Defever forums have been.

My next challenge will be hooking up all these new components. I plan to work with the electrician at Worton Creek to plan the install and have him double check my work. I'd like to do all of the work I can with a goal of making it safe, functional and as close to ABYC standards as possible--the latter for any future insurance surveys.
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Yep, that's Shay. We both used Morehead City Yacht Basin as a homeport. Super guy and always willing to lend a helping hand.
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