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Old 01-24-2015, 08:28 AM   #21
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After someone like N Korea pops a nuke off 300 miles up ,

LORAN will be the first nav system available to the public.

Keep it installed as an insurance policy.

Get a chart tape depth recorder for contour nav , also insurance.

GPS may take a decade to get back up.
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Old 01-24-2015, 08:33 AM   #22
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A lot of sailors use the Maretron. I like it and best of all, you can add other pieces as you see fit AND you don't need their display, but can use n2k view on your computer and any monitor.

Yes but it's cheaper to just get a display.
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Old 01-26-2015, 06:44 PM   #23
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I was telling my wife, we need a wind instrument. When I was docking in 20 knot winds, from inside the pilot house, I had a hard time. Even with bow and stern thruster. Because I was in the pilot house, I did not realize that we had 20 knot winds. If I had an indicator, I would have known it was blowing 20 knots and the direction. I also came from a sail boat. Good idea!
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Old 01-26-2015, 07:17 PM   #24
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My previous boat had B&G direction/speed indicators, it was fitted out as committee boat for the CYCA Sydney. They were useful, but things have progressed greatly since then, and indeed since the wetted finger.
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Old 01-26-2015, 07:34 PM   #25
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After someone like N Korea pops a nuke off 300 miles up ,

LORAN will be the first nav system available to the public.

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Not really since they have or are physically taking the Loran chain stations down. We can put up new satellites a lot faster than they can put the bidding out to build new chain stations, select a contractor, then put it out to bid again because the first guy will have been discovered to have given kickbacks to the people handling the bid, then selectd a new contractor, then pour the concrete, build the buildings, erect the antennas, and on and on. Just getting the chain stations built will take five years. Then, when they turn them on, they won't work and it will take another two years and 6.37 billion dollars to get them to put out a signal. Which nobody will be able to receive since nobody will have a Loran receiver anymore. No planes have them. I doubt any newer ships have them

Besides, North Korea is far too busy and having way too much fun trying to control Hollywood to be messing about with nuclear weapons anymore.

No, a wind indicator in place of the Loran-C unit in the panel seems to be the smart way to go.
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Old 01-26-2015, 08:40 PM   #26
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Hi Marin,
We have a couple of stand-alone Simrad units, on the upper dash. Simrad IS20 & IS15. I think the IS20 would fit your purpose. I see they are still making the same unit (ours is 10 years old?)
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They seem good products, robust, simple, and come with good documentation / owners manual.
My backgorund is sailing, and I enjoy these instruments probably as much, or more than the other electronic goodies we have.
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Thanks. That certainly looks like what we're after.
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My best friend gave me one of these for a retirement gift. It's got a solar-powered wireless wind speed and direction sensor that sits on our house roof and a battery powered rain sensor. It's worked flawlessly in the two years we've had it and costs about $100.

I'm considering mounting the wind sensor on my radar mast with north aligned with the bow for a relative wind indication.

It's a busy indicator with lots of data but the wind speed and direction is easily gleaned at a glance.



Something like this could easily be modified to a flush panel mount.
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My best friend gave me one of these for a retirement gift. It's got a solar-powered wireless wind speed and direction sensor that sits on our house roof and a battery powered rain sensor. It's worked flawlessly in the two years we've had it and costs about $100.

I'm considering mounting the wind sensor on my radar mast with north aligned with the bow for a relative wind indication.

It's a busy indicator with lots of data but the wind speed and direction is easily gleaned at a glance.

Something like this could easily be modified to a flush panel mount.
This product is not likely to work on a boat. The sensor must be fix-mounted pointing to true south in order to get a true wind direction reading.
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I don't think anybody cares about true wind direction, but wind relative to the boat. So as mentioned earlier, align it so North is at the bow.


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Good point if that is all in which one is interested but there may be some folks such as myself who are interested in both relative and true wind direction. Still, if all one needs is relative wind direction this unit seems to be a good value.
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Good point if that is all in which one is interested but there may be some folks such as myself who are interested in both relative and true wind direction. Still, if all one needs is relative wind direction this unit seems to be a good value.
Calculating true wind from apparent is not all that hard and there us freeware on the Internet that will do it very quickly.

I think a company named Starpath is the one I have.

After 55 years of boating including a lot of sailing and 20+ years of flying helos over water....the water is a pretty good telltale for true wind in your immediate location.
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After 55 years of boating including a lot of sailing and 20+ years of flying helos over water....the water is a pretty good telltale for true wind in your immediate location.
As a longtime floatplane pilot I know what you're saying, but it's not always the case. And what we're really interested is the speed.
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So Marin have you chose one?

I think the clipper was the best value IMO.
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As a longtime floatplane pilot I know what you're saying, but it's not always the case. And what we're really interested is the speed.
Make sure you review the specs then...and go with a wired system...some of the wireless have a delay as the remote info is sent in bursts to save power.

One thing I have learned about wind over water is the speed is always seems somewhere between land station and marine forecasts...it's direction follows the contour of the landmass surrounding the waterway....and knowing how it's going to affect me is the only important thing about it other than curiosity of how strong it really is once it gets above 40 or so....

I rather have predictability than measuring what I can see.
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Marin,

You have not mentioned what you use for your primary chartplotter/nav system, but Furuno, Garmin, Raymarine and Simrad all have decent wind systems that pretty much plug and play if they are of similar series or vintage. In many cases, the data is also available on other system displays as well. Also, when it comes to connectivity, sometimes it is beneficial "having all the liars in the same room" so to speak.
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You have not mentioned what you use for your primary chartplotter/nav system, but Furuno, Garmin, Raymarine and Simrad all have decent wind systems that pretty much plug and play if they are of similar series or vintage. In many cases, the data is also available on other system displays as well. Also, when it comes to connectivity, sometimes it is beneficial "having all the liars in the same room" so to speak.

He has a Furuno Vx2 System.
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He has a Furuno Vx2 System.
Looks like the this Furuno wind system would be just the ticket for the Vx2. Nice way to fill the space where the Loran lived I'd say.

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Looks like the this Furuno wind system would be just the ticket for the Vx2. Nice way to fill the space where the Loran lived I'd say.


I agree. N2K capability for future add ons too.
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Thanks for the suggestion of the Furuno system. I'll talk to our electronics dealer about that.
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