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11-25-2014, 12:25 PM
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City: Hill Country TX/S.Portland Maine
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Top quality barometer thoughts....
Got a call from a friend asking the question, " if you were going to buy someone a very nice top quality barometer for their 50ft boat, what would you buy?" I thought about it for a bit and decided to ask the trawler forum brain trust...soooo, who makes the best brass, not made in China barometer ?
Thanks for the opinions in advance.
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11-25-2014, 12:44 PM
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City: Hill Country TX/S.Portland Maine
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11-25-2014, 12:44 PM
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11-25-2014, 12:57 PM
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City: Miami
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Depending on the budget I always prefer barographs to barometers. Weems are around 1500 but there are others for a bit less.
Via iPhone.
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11-25-2014, 01:01 PM
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City: Hill Country TX/S.Portland Maine
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cafesport
Depending on the budget I always prefer barographs to barometers. Weems are around 1500 but there are others for a bit less.
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I always thought they were too delicate for a marine application?
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11-25-2014, 01:13 PM
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City: Miami
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If the boat is a trawler or a sailboat it will be fine. Planning hull not good.
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11-25-2014, 01:57 PM
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City: Sarasota,FL/Thomasville,GA
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wall mounted or table top mount?
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11-25-2014, 02:00 PM
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City: Sarasota,FL/Thomasville,GA
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Trinitec are great but they have a low $ version that is just ok
the NAU-04-IN model is under 450
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11-25-2014, 03:50 PM
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I like the Chelsea stuff, very high quality, though nothing wrong with Weems:
Antique Brass, Nickel & Chrome Barometers | Chelsea Clock
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11-25-2014, 04:16 PM
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Greetings,
Mr. rw. I searched for "brass barometer" and got dozens of hits. Everything from W&P (WOW are they expensive) to antique (mostly of German or French origin). Prices seem to range from $50 on up. I expect the end user of your friends gift will not be setting up a scientific weather station so I think "eye appeal" would be more important than absolute accuracy. I didn't notice ANY of Chinese manufacture.
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11-25-2014, 06:39 PM
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TF Site Team
City: California Delta
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It seems to me at some point, we can safely cast the old methods and equipment aside and embrace the new.
I'd forego the barometer in exchange for good modern weather forecasting with subscription service so I could get the info anywhere I cruise. In my case, I'd just need 3G/4G internet access since my boating waters are pretty much limited to the SF Bay and California Delta estuary but others could benefit from subscription satellite coverage.
Another option might be a digital weather station for onboard observations and data tracking. My LaCrosse Weather Station tracks temps, humidity, winds, barometer with baro trend weather forecasting and rainfall. It retains data which is accessible wirelessly via laptop with a USB stick.
Other examples of out-with-the-old, in-with-the-new include celestial navigation for GPS, charts for chartplotters, CB for DSC VHF with AIS, manual pump heads for electric, ship's bell for an electric horn and auto foghorn. But there's still no substitute for a really good loudhailer to get the first mate's attention in a hurry!!
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11-25-2014, 07:02 PM
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City: Sydney
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I have a matched pair of barometer and clock(can`t recall brand, European from memory. I suspect most of the money is in the polished brass case and dials. When the "fine chronometer" failed to restart after a battery change(it did eventually after some 'percussive persuasion") I looked at the "highly accurate mechanism", it strongly resembled the clock power module of the kitchen wall clock.
IMO there is no substitute for seeing a barometer drop rapidly while onboard and anchoring out, it concentrates the boating mind.
I recently bought, on Ebay, a used "banjo" type barometer/hygrometer/temp to hang on my study wall. Inexpensive,West German(dates it nicely) manufacture. The barometer is very accurate( reset and checked against Sydney Airport readings online), being at my desk regularly, the pressure changes are surprisingly frequent and obvious. Then I bought an expensive looking (it wasn`t) English oak cased 1930s "temperature compensated" Smiths barometer for the hallway...once a collector always a collector...hard to reset correctly, not as accurate as the cheap West German one.
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11-25-2014, 07:21 PM
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Guru
City: Vallejo, California
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11-25-2014, 07:42 PM
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Scraping Paint
City: -
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We have a Chelsea barometer and a Chelsea ship's bell clock (windup) on our boat. Both have performed flawlessly for the 16 years we've had the boat so far.
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11-25-2014, 08:28 PM
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City: Diberville Mississippi
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BruceK,
So that's what you call it!
"percussive persuasion"
1983 Present 42 Sundeck
Twin Lehman 135's
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*Present 42 twin 135 Lehmans
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11-26-2014, 05:37 AM
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If the boat will cruise the barograph is the most useful.
As a decoration , big and shiny brass will do.
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11-26-2014, 09:39 AM
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City: Miami Florida
Vessel Name: Possum
Vessel Model: Ellis 28
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I like both Chelsea and Weems and Plath. Buy one with a cast housing. The ones with sheet brass housings just feel cheap.
I was once given a Chelsea clock. It has a serial number on it. I wrote to Chelsea to ask when it was made. They wrote back with the year of manufacturer (1930 something) and the name of the man who first bought it.
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11-26-2014, 11:17 AM
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Guru
City: Hill Country TX/S.Portland Maine
Vessel Name: bout’ time
Vessel Model: Grady White 282 Sailfish
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Thank you all for the education on Barometers and have a thanks filled Thanksgiving
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11-29-2014, 12:53 PM
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Senior Member
City: North Vancouver
Vessel Name: INFINITY ∞
Vessel Model: Nordhavn 62
Join Date: Dec 2010
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This is what we use on INFINITY.
Simple, robust, extremely accurate. I glance at it several times a day, and when on passage, record the reading into our log hourly.
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11-29-2014, 05:00 PM
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Dauntless Award
City: Wrangell, Alaska
Vessel Name: Dauntless
Vessel Model: Kadey Krogen 42 - 148
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Quote:
Originally Posted by River Cruiser
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I too like this one
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