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Old 02-06-2015, 11:26 PM   #1
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Thinking out of the box

I thought some of you might appreciate some innovating bilge pump installation ideas. The owner of this boat asked me to take a look at his bilge pumps after a near sinking at the dock. Water had risen over the floor boards. These 500 gallon per hour bilge pumps were servicing a 40' boat, two total. One midship and the other located in the bow. Note the speaker wire, loosely twisted connections. The float switch cleverly attached to the flattens aluminum angle and the spatchula mount for the pump itself. The genius of this design is a couple of screws and you can access the pump without bending over. These pumps were supplied by a group 27 battery laying on a shelve unsecured attached with alligator clamps to a Sears Diehard battery charger. No thermal protection at the battery. The battery registered 4.3 volts. A red and white 16 gauge wire running 30 plus feet secured to the battery with wing nuts. The owner says just make it work, I don't care about any code. Oh and by the way can you make the engine run, I want to go cruising. Gas engine by the way.
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Old 02-06-2015, 11:39 PM   #2
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I am amazed at the things owners do

You seem to have found a nice little second career during your retirement Steve. You seem from your posts to stay busy, get to fool around with boats, make friends, and maybe make a few extra bucks on get side.

Very nice!
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Tell him to go F himself. But in a diplomatic way.
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And y'all give me shit for having a Carver!!!!!
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Old 02-07-2015, 12:00 AM   #6
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I am amazed at the things owners do

You seem to have found a nice little second career during your retirement Steve. You seem from your posts to stay busy, get to fool around with boats, make friends, and maybe make a few extra bucks on get side.

Very nice!
I thought I would make a little money doing what I've done as a hobby for 55 years. Believe me this is a good way to take the fun out of boating. This just scratches the surface of problems with this boat. I seem to stay busy, I just replaced the stringers and keelson on a 40 ft houseboat due to dry rot. I've got it back together structurally and am now replacing paneling and floor coverings. Some of the things I've seen, it's a wonder more boats don't burn up. Wiring is unbelievable, some of it would make a house trailer electrician blush.
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And y'all give me shit for having a Carver!!!!!
What, that's not a picture of a Carver?
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What, that's not a picture of a Carver?
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Old 02-07-2015, 07:23 AM   #11
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Can you purchase a total loss insurance policy on his boat.

Sounds better than a lottery ticket
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Old 02-07-2015, 07:35 AM   #12
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I thought I would make a little money doing what I've done as a hobby for 55 years. Believe me this is a good way to take the fun out of boating. This just scratches the surface of problems with this boat. I seem to stay busy, I just replaced the stringers and keelson on a 40 ft houseboat due to dry rot. I've got it back together structurally and am now replacing paneling and floor coverings. Some of the things I've seen, it's a wonder more boats don't burn up. Wiring is unbelievable, some of it would make a house trailer electrician blush.

Pretty funny but true.....I will be working and sweating/bleeding from working on my boat only to jump over to the towboat and work on it when the boss swings by with a new piece of gear only to be interrupted by friends who want me to swing by and give them a hand.

The slight distraction causes me to spend the next hour upside down and bent backwards reaching for some critical part that rube goldberg bounced under the engine.

at 20 years old I would have been hard pressed to do some of the things I have to do now physically...yep....more than once some days I mutter "I hate boats" and dream of the day I'm smart enough to sell everything, buy a mountain cabin and fish from the dock or the ONLY boat being a canoe with one paddle.

the best part of the bilge pump set up is how many other things are wrong .....and yet some believe that all boat systems must rival nuclear sub design and maintenance. Such things like all tinned wire and ratchet crimped heat shrunk terminal ends or long tailed hose barbs with 2 top of the line hose clamps rotated 180 degrees and finely torqued to the right spec are the only thing that will keep a boat afloat.

Good practices...but something less doesn't mean guaranteed and instant disaster....as the above pics were taken above water.
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I do like the SS spatula for the pump mounting bracket.
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Wonder how cheap boat insurance would be if the village idiots didn't own boats.

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Good point Ted. Or maybe much higher rates for high risk boat owners, and give "us" a break!Course, in a few years the Gov would pass a law showing why it's unconstitutional to charge one boater more than another- then thankfully regulate it so that it becomes "fair". I digress.....
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I do like the SS spatula for the pump mounting bracket.
It's really not a bad idea for those hard to reach or very deep sumps. No real difference than using a custom bent metal pump mount.
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Good point Ted. Or maybe much higher rates for high risk boat owners, and give "us" a break!Course, in a few years the Gov would pass a law showing why it's unconstitutional to charge one boater more than another- then thankfully regulate it so that it becomes "fair". I digress.....
I have always thought insurance was the ultimate of socialism. Ya know, spread the risk among all of us.
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Knowing how much I complain about servicing the bilge pumps, and then reading this to the Admiral, she's hidden all the spatulas.
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Knowing how much I complain about servicing the bilge pumps, and then reading this to the Admiral, she's hidden all the spatulas.
Even the one in the grill set?

It even better being longer...

Capt Bill nice....bad boys club for sure with that one...
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Even the one in the grill set?

It even better being longer...

Capt Bill nice....bad boys club for sure with that one...
Hey it's cheap, SS, easy to bend and you can pick one up any Walmart. What's not to like? And if you get one designed for BBQ grills it would even reach deeper.
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