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Old 02-07-2015, 11:26 AM   #21
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I have always thought insurance was the ultimate of socialism. Ya know, spread the risk among all of us.
Talk about Spreading the Risk!!!

A year after the really bad hurricane losses a few years ago in south east my boat insurance suddenly doubled. Took me some time on phone to SAFECO HQ to work past the BS and get straight answer from a VP. The insurance rise on west coast was due to east coast storm losses. Our boat is docked and used in a very protected area of SF Delta... again, talk about spreading the risk!!!

BTW, my ins agent had not a clue and did not know how to find the answer...
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Old 02-07-2015, 11:33 AM   #22
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that charger on a gas boat is an explosion waiting to happen and an stray current problem right now. Check the underwater stuff.
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Old 02-07-2015, 11:36 AM   #23
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I'll definitely keep the spatchula mount in my bag of tricks

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It's really not a bad idea for those hard to reach or very deep sumps. No real difference than using a custom bent metal pump mount.
Probably true, this just hit a funny bone.
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Old 02-07-2015, 11:50 AM   #24
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Oh it's just the begining

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that charger on a gas boat is an explosion waiting to happen and an stray current problem right now. Check the underwater stuff.
No fire extinguishers, no engine room blowers, no battery boxes, no thermal protection on the house bank, no battery disconnect or switches, no through hull bonding, it goes on and on. The new owner claims to be a experienced boater, bought without a survey, seems to know it all, doesn't listen, what can I say.
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Old 02-07-2015, 12:02 PM   #25
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No fire extinguishers, no engine room blowers, no battery boxes, no thermal protection on the house bank, no battery disconnect or switches, no through hull bonding, it goes on and on. The new owner claims to be a experienced boater, bought without a survey, seems to know it all, doesn't listen, what can I say.

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Old 02-07-2015, 12:09 PM   #26
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If you've been working on his boat and it goes kapow with injuries or death, especially if you're being paid, make sure your insurance umbrella policy has a few million bucks at least. People look around for someone to pay for their loss.
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Old 02-07-2015, 04:29 PM   #27
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If you've been working on his boat and it goes kapow with injuries or death, especially if you're being paid, make sure your insurance umbrella policy has a few million bucks at least. People look around for someone to pay for their loss.
which is why I only work under some businesses insurance umbrella or only work on friends boats for free....can't afford to run an insured business in my situation....

I know I can still be named in a law suit...heck some people with their experience will be included in a lawsuit for NOT jumping in and helping correct the bozos out there.....let alone elbow deep and trying to fix stuff....
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Old 02-07-2015, 05:51 PM   #28
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I'm not being a Debbie Downer here, cause we all love our boating. But a guy up the street from me had a house full of twenty year olds (children and friends ) all die in a fire traced to faulty wiring in the renovation the owner did on his own.....not only is he ruined emotionally but jail time and bankruptcy as well. Be careful out there. I can laugh at the speaker wire running up to the anchor light that I replaced this year, but the situation described is beyond scary to me.
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Old 02-07-2015, 08:36 PM   #29
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Scary-did you actually type "no engine room blower"? In a gas boat? And the guy wants you to start the engine? I think I might charge admission and then join everyone on the sea wall watching while he starts it himself! Take bets on how long before the BOOM!
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Old 02-07-2015, 08:40 PM   #30
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Relistically..... an engine room blower does not make you blow up.....gas vapors do...

A quick sniff of the engine room is worth all the blowers on the planet.

Yes...yes...there should be a blower or two....
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Old 02-07-2015, 08:45 PM   #31
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It's not a bad idea to have an exhaust blower in a diesel-engine compartment either. Or am I biased because I have one?
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Old 02-07-2015, 08:46 PM   #32
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I do- I suspect it's more to remove heat after cruising.


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Old 02-07-2015, 08:52 PM   #33
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During cruising too....Lots of fresh, cool air makes diesels happy.....and more efficient.
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Old 02-07-2015, 08:53 PM   #34
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Greetings,
Mr. m. You're biased. I have one as well. It's VERY seldom used.
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Old 02-07-2015, 09:00 PM   #35
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Mr. m. You're biased. I have one as well. It's VERY seldom used.

Why don't you feel the need to use it?
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Old 02-07-2015, 09:09 PM   #36
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In a diesel engine room the blowers are used to cool the engine room. Now to start an "anchor" style war-- since the blowers blow air out, do they compete with the engine for air when used underway?
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Old 02-07-2015, 09:11 PM   #37
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Why don't you feel the need to use it?
I almost never use mine .....as a single in a big engine space, running in moderate temps at well below it's rated output probably isn't suffering from gulping high temp air in the engine room.

Plus I rarely run them because outside temps are so high I need to run them to keep the saloon cool.

I do use them to vent foul odor or temps when working in the space.
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I almost never use mine .....as a single in a big engine space, running in moderate temps at well below it's rated output probably isn't suffering from gulping high temp air in the engine room.

I guess it makes sense in cooler climates. What is the normal temp of your engine room?
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Old 02-07-2015, 09:15 PM   #39
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I guess it makes sense in cooler climates. What is the normal temp of your engine room?
Probably well less than 100 for all but a few days...

Remember for now I only travel in really cool temps.

On my old sportfish with 3208s...one summer run in a warm bay...even with the blowers on, the engines over tempted and wouldn't perform due to the heat.
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I have 8 10 inch fans in my engine room on the sporty. 4 in and 4 out. Manual and auto/temp controlled. Big engines.
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