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Old 03-26-2016, 09:46 PM   #1
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That's where my money goes . . .

Winter is on the way out up here and I finally started back on the DC upgrades today. Eight new AGMs (which I bought a year ago, but haven't hooked up yet), Balmar smart regulators, Centerfielder and Duo Charge, 100-amp alternators, new switches, fuses, buses and wire. I like this Blue Sea gear, but they don't exactly give it away, do they?
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Old 03-26-2016, 09:54 PM   #2
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That's a nice stock of supplies for a great upgrade. That's a lot of switches!

8 new AGM's for your house bank? What size?

Have you drawn out your electrical system schematic to work through all the various charging and supply issues/failures? Does Stella Maris have a generator?
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Old 03-26-2016, 10:42 PM   #3
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Thanks, Al. They're 6-volt J305 floor machine batteries (312 AH per pair). I'm working with an ABYC systems designer in Annapolis. (I'll also have an electrician double-check my work.) He spec'd remote battery switches for both banks (house and single battery start bank). They're really cool since virtually all the circuits can be shut down at the source from the saloon in an emergency without having to enter the ER. Then there's an on/off switch for each starter circuit (2 mains and the genset), one to isolate the inverter and one to parallel the start bank with the house bank. (Whew!). Here's the basic design I'm working from, which is not complete.
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To resurrect an old term, that is bitchin'! One helluva house bank, Angie!

'dem are some tall batteries. My boat's vertically challenged in the battery storage department. I could do it, but it'd cost me in limited head space.

As it is, I come home with head cuts that I can't explain. I don't want to make it worse on myself.
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To resurrect an old term, that is bitchin'! One helluva house bank, Angie!

'dem are some tall batteries. My boat's vertically challenged in the battery storage department. I could do it, but it'd cost me in limited head space.

As it is, I come home with head cuts that I can't explain. I don't want to make it worse on myself.
Heh, even with "near stand up head room" I still mutilate myself most weekends. The folks I work with don't bother to ask anymore how I got the cuts and bruises. I actually went with the 305s because they're a few inches shorter than L16s. I needed the backsplash for gear . . . this is as far as I got today. Things are just tacked in and the fuse block still in packaging represents a shunt.

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What a pleasure to be able to work in such a nice, light, airy, and CLEAN ER like that, not to mention being able to get all that good gear together at the one time.
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Angus, surprised you aren't putting in a separate standalone battery for the genset? I have always seen that as a big power backup should things go awry.
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Angus, surprised you aren't putting in a separate standalone battery for the genset? I have always seen that as a big power backup should things go awry.
My dedicated genset battery is right next to the genset. In fact it is an 8 D! Speak of overkill. With a lid on the battery box it becomes a nice ER seat.
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Angus, surprised you aren't putting in a separate standalone battery for the genset? I have always seen that as a big power backup should things go awry.
Menzies, a lot of folks I consulted are going to this configuration. (The start bank is an 8D.) With the parallel circuit, the house bank becomes the backup for both the mains and the genset. Plus I own a pair of jumper cables.
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My dedicated genset battery is right next to the genset. In fact it is an 8 D! Speak of overkill. With a lid on the battery box it becomes a nice ER seat.
Exactly the setup I've got. Then again, we have a designer in common. Love that seat back amidst all the hardware . . . it completes the picture of a man-cave.
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Wow, nice collection of parts. If you used your credit card to buy em, you should get enough miles for a free flight
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Love those Defever engine rooms. I got to look at one on a 44 at the boat show last week and fell in love. I think I can use a smaller setup like yours on my boat. Thanks so much for sharing your diagram!

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Angus, one thing I noticed was that your windlass doesn't show on your diagram. My boat has a dedicated windlass battery. How is yours set up? Thanks.

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Angus, one thing I noticed was that your windlass doesn't show on your diagram. My boat has a dedicated windlass battery. How is yours set up? Thanks.

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Thanks, Kevin. That ER has definitely spoiled me. I'm only 6'1" and my hats off to taller guys who can work in some of the spaces I've seen. I'd need two elbows on each arm.

The windlass is powered by the house bank. There's a catastrophic fuse in that stack of fuses near the batteries and a breaker on the main panel. It was actually powered by the house bank in its original config and worked well.
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Hopefully this works, this is the ER a lot of us probably have to work in. My battery box in between the engines. I would have a tough time finding space in there for a big house bank. Probably have to find a more out of the way place to put it. I'm 6'4" and not a slim guy anymore so boat yoga is my new pass time. lol.
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Great pics and some nice moves, Swede! I call that Yacht Yoga!
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Will you be hooking up the field kill switch on the engine selecting rotary?
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My windlass too is powered from house bank. As with many, we choose to run genset when retrieving anchor. The inverter charger keeps the battery draw down to minimal by doing that. Otherwise the smallish on engine alternators are working overtime to get the house bank recharged.
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Swede, I feel your pain. My back and knees don't bend like they used to, let alone straighten up afterwards.
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Angus. Looks good. The Blue Seas switches are good stuff. I have the remote switches in the helm that actuate the switches in the ER.

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