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Old 01-14-2020, 09:29 AM   #21
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I think that like a radar, an SSB is only as good as you operator knowledge, but even more so. If you aren't practiced using it good luck. You can't know about 1/2 dozen channels and use it acceptably anywhere in the world like a VHF. There are hundreds of channels with different purposes in different regions, and times of day when they work and times when they don't.


After a couple of years of not using it, I finally got mine sorted and learned some very basics for the CUBAR rally. It was nice to actually use it and confirm it even worked, and nice to be able to talk to people outside of VHF range. But then I promptly forgot it all and will have to restart mostly from scratch next time.


I guess my only advice would be to do as I say, not as I do, and use the thing so you stay brushed up.
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Old 01-14-2020, 09:55 AM   #22
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I got rid of my SSB for all the above reasons but mostly is trying to remember how to use it and at what distances. For emergency use an EPIRB and sat phone will satisfy me. But Iím simple and a dumb shit.
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Old 01-14-2020, 10:01 AM   #23
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Yes, Epirb

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Good points, Tom; Iím just wondering if their utility has been superseded by more modern means.

ówill I get the same weather info in remote areas via a receive-only SW? (and just not be able to participate in discussions.)

ówill an EPIRB work as well for emergencies in remote areas?

Iím on a crusade to remove all of the obsolete equipment and wiring that came as a legacy on Stella. But I donít want to cut of my nose . . .
Will work any where, as long add you can see the sky. It is a satellite-based system.

Reference SSB - for its the biggest advantage its eavesdropping on weather routing services such as Chris Parker. Or, you Cam subscribe top Chris' service and he will help you with weathered-based decisions. In my mind this is more useful for Bluewater boaters. I'd you are going to be within cell phone range, you will probably not use SSB much.

SSB does take a bit of learning and practice. You may be able to get weather fax, but I found it not very useful. Better than nothing, but just...

I am not sure I understand the urgency of getting rid of a piece of working equipment. But if you don't use it regularly, you will probably not be able to use it when you need it.

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Old 01-14-2020, 10:03 AM   #24
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The question to ask your self, will the old SSB do anything for you that you can’t get done with an InReach?
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Old 01-14-2020, 10:12 AM   #25
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In my opinion SSB has been largly functionally replaced by satellite based communications systems

With the KVH SATCOM system I can from with few exceptions anywhere in the world...

Make and receive crystal clear telephone calls
Access the internet with a 2mbps connection

With those two features SSB is not needed.

I spend my summers on my satcom link, as it allows me to run my business from my boat while enjoying cruising in Alaskaís maritime wilderness far from cell phone coverage.
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Old 01-14-2020, 10:39 AM   #26
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.... But Iím simple and a dumb shit.
Oh goodie. Another pending contest..... who is the biggest dumb shit.
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Old 01-14-2020, 10:53 AM   #27
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I may certainly qualify as the biggest. Gained a few pounds since Ft Pierce last year.
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[QUOTE=ksanders;837378]In my opinion SSB has been largly functionally replaced by satellite based communications systems [QUOTE]

Correct.

Angus however was wanting to know thoughts on keeping an old free SSB. Having spent time with these ancient SSBs, I and hundreds of AK commercial fisherman view them as quite useful.
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I am not sure I understand the urgency of getting rid of a piece of working equipment. But if you don't use it regularly, you will probably not be able to use it when you need it.
We had a ton of obsolete or seldom/never-used equipment on board that we’re clearing out as part of our refit. I’m weighing selling the SSB to someone who will actually use it vs storing it against the chance of possibly needing it some day and having other, newer gear on board that can accomplish most of what I need.

And call me optimistic, but by the time we sell the boat this will be a very old SSB model.

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The question to ask your self, will the old SSB do anything for you that you can’t get done with an InReach?
Exactly! Or a compact, low-cost receive-only shortwave plus EPIRB plus a rented or owned sat phone when we’re out of cell/vhf range.
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Exactly! Or a compact, low-cost receive-only shortwave plus EPIRB plus a rented or owned sat phone when weíre out of cell/vhf range.
That makes a lot of sense. As an aside, many SSB users, especially sail boaters, use these devices as a verbal Facebook. Think of them as party lines from the very old days.
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That makes a lot of sense. As an aside, many SSB users, especially sail boaters, use these devices as a verbal Facebook. Think of them as party lines from the very old days.
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Offshore or simply coasting one advantage to a SSB is they are built very frequency stable.


That means the gov. weather forcasts can be fed to a computer .


Great fun sitting in FL and watching the wave heights in the North Atlantic, and then there are practical uses too.
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To SSB or Not to SSB . . .

U donít even need a computer for fax read outs. Just hold your phone near the speaker, and run the ďhf faxĒ app.

On the question of ssb vs epirb. When u pull the pin on an epirb offshore, either a helo or a ship will eventually show up. They will want to take you off your boat, leaving it to drift. This story I heard play out one time via ssb. An older couple got caught in rough seas in GOM in a sailboat. He got incapacitated by seasickness, and she was unable to sail on. The mayday got transferred to USGC Norfolk. The options were get picked up by a passing ship, abandoning the boat, or carry on. Since the boat contained all their possessions, they agreed to carry on. These kinds of conversations cannot be done by epirb. Although not highly likely, if the conversation is heard by others close by, additional options may become available.
Bahamas has morning weather nets via HF that are entertaining and add to socialization. Interesting to announce an anchorage that none have heard of.
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