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Old 07-08-2015, 03:18 PM   #41
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I've been told I'm a difficult guy to like. Good friends have told me they had to force themselves to like me.

My apologies if I occasionally get up on a soap box.
Wifey B: Ut oh... Was I not supposed to like you? Did I F up in liking you and not having to force myself? What am I to do?
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Old 07-08-2015, 03:30 PM   #42
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site under construction...this may have been the place I was thinking of....
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Old 07-08-2015, 06:43 PM   #43
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I've been told I'm a difficult guy to like. Good friends have told me they had to force themselves to like me.

My apologies if I occasionally get up on a soap box.


Good for you and Codger2, you've still got a long way to go to get to the break even point with me Kevin
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Old 07-11-2015, 10:35 PM   #44
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You're you, I'm me, Neptune & Posiedon designed it to be that..... Someday you',, save my assets, some day I'll do my best to save yours.

It's supposed to be that............. Works really well, actually, when just left to work that way.

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Good for you and Codger2, you've still got a long way to go to get to the break even point with me Kevin
You will eventually realize I'm harmless and be
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Old 07-11-2015, 11:37 PM   #46
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I had a friend with an old wooden trawler with a really noisy straight 671 in it. He put a sound blanket over the engine. It was suspended on wires about 6-9 inches above the engine. I could never really tell that it made much of a difference, that old 671 was a really noisy engine.
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Old 07-15-2015, 12:53 PM   #47
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Smallest Generator?

We have the Entec West 4.1 KW with sound shield. The PO installed it and it runs well so far but I'm no expert. It only has 136 hours on it. We've nick-named it "Thumper"! Considering the cost of a Genny install, I'm going to "make do" with it.

We use it twice a day when for an hour when on anchor to keep our house bank happy. In order to keep it properly loaded we turn on/off either a space heater or the water heater. Our Webasto is out of commission right now and engine heat uses the same system, so all heat and hot water comes from running the generator. We shut it down when the Magnum 2812 I/C drops into Absorb Charge and < 60 amps.

We watch the loads in the Magnum Monitor, I try not to let the AC amps go much below110 volts, and that happens if the loads get too high. The genny provides approximately 20-25 amps A/C at best.


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Jim, Entec may be a winner for me. It's the smallest I've seen. It uses the same engine that all the other small gen sets use, and one of my customers is a dealer. I bet he'll take good care of me.
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Old 07-15-2015, 02:48 PM   #49
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Jim, Entec may be a winner for me. It's the smallest I've seen. It uses the same engine that all the other small gen sets use, and one of my customers is a dealer. I bet he'll take good care of me.

So what do they cost? The PO purchased it "in the box" from someone who never installed it in his sailboat.


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I'll have to ask for a quote. Price will be a big factor in whether I do this or not.
I'm also not sure I want to cut my water tankage from fifty to twenty five gallons. I do like long showers.
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Old 08-09-2015, 08:01 AM   #51
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Has anyone ever heard of a problem with running a diesel gen in a gas powered boat.i was at a boat show and asked a generator sales person who said the coastguard would not allow this. Aside from placing proper fuel in separate tanks I can't think of a problem.
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Old 08-09-2015, 08:12 AM   #52
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Who was the person that said it and what reason did they give for not allowing it?

I have never heard of a rule that may prohibit it....if so it probably would only apply to passenger for hire vessels due to the possibility of mixing up the fuels...but that sounds like a stretch to me.

If in an engine compartment or bilge area where fumes could collect, it would have to be ignition protected to prevent explosion.....which could be why, but the problem could be overcome if worth the trouble.

Either way....why not just run a well maintained gas genset with all the proper safeguards? You can buy a few extra CO detectors for the difference in price.
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The CG does not regulate diesel fuel systems on recreational vessels.

A boat manufacturer must follow NMMA and/or ABYC recommendations in order to sell the boat to you but what you do on your own boat is your own business.
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The CG does not regulate diesel fuel systems on recreational vessels.

A boat manufacturer must follow NMMA and/or ABYC recommendations in order to sell the boat to you but what you do on your own boat is your own business.
Rick...
I thought NMMA & ABYC were voluntary...and there is a lot of room for interpretation of standards when voluntary.
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Has anyone ever heard of a problem with running a diesel gen in a gas powered boat.i was at a boat show and asked a generator sales person who said the coastguard would not allow this. Aside from placing proper fuel in separate tanks I can't think of a problem.
Could be an issue as most diesel gennies have features that are not "ignition protected". Such as car type alternators with open brushes. Or brushes on main gen, such as NL5-6kW. But I think some small gens are ignition protected just for this type of use. I've never installed a diesel gen in a gas boat, so never researched it.
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Old 08-09-2015, 09:36 AM   #56
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With the outboard powered boats getting over 40 ft with accommodations generator manufacturers have responded to this market demand and many now offer ignition protected diesel gensets for use on gas powered boats.

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Old 08-09-2015, 09:39 AM   #57
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There was one company awhile back that had generic sound enclosures with soft sides...

Haven't seen it in years...don't know if it is still around.
Not as good as a factory enclosure, but better than none:

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Think that's the one....thanks.
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I thought NMMA & ABYC were voluntary...and there is a lot of room for interpretation of standards when voluntary.
That is why you can do whatever you want to your own personal recreational vessel.

However, if you are manufacturing boats for sale to the public:

PART 181—MANUFACTURER REQUIREMENTS :: PART 181--MANUFACTURER REQUIREMENTS :: CHAPTER I--COAST GUARD, DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY :: Title 33 - Navigation and Navigable Waters :: Code of Federal Regulations :: Regulations :: Law :: Justia
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"The genny provides approximately 20-25 amps A/C at best."

If its rated at 4.1 KW , you got screwed.

120V x 20A =2400W (2,4KW )

120v x 25A =3000W ( 3kw)

There is at least 25% missing output.
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