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Old 02-28-2016, 10:15 AM   #1
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Has anyone had any experience with the Furrion power cords that Defender sells?

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Old 02-28-2016, 10:48 AM   #2
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I bought a couple of them a few years ago before I switched over to the SmartPlug set up. The only difference I noted was they were stiffer than the marinco cords, I think it was because of the insulation covering.


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I bought one and it works just fine although the blue led failed quickly. I called Furion and told them about it and they sent me a new cord. In 2-weeks the led failed again, so I called again and they sent me another cord. Now I have 3 cords as they did not want the others returned.
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My 50 amp cord and adapters seem just fine...competitive in quality but the blue LED indicators are an issue.


Unknown if water intrusion is the issue.


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I bought a couple of them a few years ago before I switched over to the SmartPlug set up.
So, how do you like the SmartPlug?
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My 50 amp cord and adapters seem just fine...competitive in quality but the blue LED indicators are an issue.


Unknown if water intrusion is the issue.


Check these prices....


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Since I really just need an extension on occasion, I wonder if I should go with one of these 25 ft cords. Any idea of the quality?


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No...and without cutting open any of them it's hard to tell.

So far out of all I have cut...the wire is usually the same/similar...it is the layers of insulation and connectors that make the difference. But to me...usually not enough to justify the excessive pricing.

I got this link from a TF member who was satisfies...but have no idea of who or their experience to satisfy a reasonable man theory.
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So, how do you like the SmartPlug?
I converted my boat (30amp) to a smart plug shortly after I bought the boat. I think it is fantastic! It has a much more secure connection and when I use it there is never any question as to whether it is connected fully. I bought a 50' chord that I keep on the boat for when we are away and converted the end of my existing 50' chord that stays on the dock at my slip.
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I bought a 50' chord that I keep on the boat for when we are away and converted the end of my existing 50' chord that stays on the dock at my slip.
I did exactly the same on my last boat and have added a 50amp SmartPlug to my existing boat. I think the SmartPlug is exceptional and can't understand why more people don't have them! Cost? (They aren't cheap!)

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I looked and it was 5 years ago this month that I changed out to the Smart Plug. I created a blog entry at the time.
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So, how do you like the SmartPlug?

I like them, it is easy to plug in if you get in after dark and They make a positive lock to the boat outlet. The safety aspect of using them makes me feel better as I liveaboard 9 months of the year but the ease of use to me almost justifies the cost to update.


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... can't understand why more people don't have them! Cost? (They aren't cheap!)
For me, it's the principle.

If every few years someone "invents" a new system that makes our entire collection of cords, our power inlets and all the dock power outlets obsolete, I'll go broke.

Plus, it's a chicken-and-egg thing. If all the docks I visit start having the Smart Plug outlets, there will be more incentive to start shelling out boat bucks for new cords and connectors.

I can't disagree that the "old" standard connections leave a lot to be desired. To be honest, I've heard some grumbling about the "Smart" connectors too, although I've heard more praise.
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I looked and it was 5 years ago this month that I changed out to the Smart Plug. I created a blog entry at the time.
I just looked at your blog, very interesting, thanks !. I have to see how I could do that on my GB.
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The 30 Amp NEMA connector is a joke, the 50 amp is substantial and rarely a problem.

For small boats a smart plug makes sense to me....for any boat using 2 30A cords...I would just upgrade to a 50A service and use a regular MEMA plug or smart plug...either I feel is solid and safe.
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At my last survey (for insurance), one of the recommendations was to change to a smart plug. The insurance co was so keen on this that they paid for most of it by a rebate when I renewed.
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I can see that...but I can also see an entire industry that hardly would know the difference in why a 50 A plug is completely different than the 30A...
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It seems to me that a Smart Plug only solves half of the problem, i.e. only one end of the cord. And it address the end that is less susceptible to problems since you have much more control over inspection and maintenance of the boat end of things.

For 30A service, I can sort of see the argument for them, but for 50A I agree with psneeld that 50A plug is pretty robust, so I don't see the compelling argument.

On my boat, I've got one cord on a reel so it's hard wired on the boat end, so no opportunity for a Smart Plug. And I've got several other cords so would have to convert multiple cords. And once converted, it would no longer be possible to daisy chain the cords together for more length, so that flexibility would go away.

It just seems a lot easier to inspect cord ends periodically and replace as needed. This should be done no matter what cord end you use, so the work is the same either way.
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for me...it is all about keeping the connection secure (mostly what the smart plug is good at)...and the 50 A NEMA connection is just fine unless you really are out to lunch with keeping an eye on it...not like a 30 A that seems the wind can loosen.
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If every few years someone "invents" a new system that makes our entire collection of cords, our power inlets and all the dock power outlets obsolete, I'll go broke..
The power cords & connectors that most are using today were invented in 1938....hardly "every few years a new one comes out.

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The "Smart Plugs" may truly be an improvement over the standard twist lock style, but they are not standard. This means you can't borrow a cord and you might be out of luck in some areas if you need a replacement.


It might have been better if they had focused on a way to make the standard better.
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