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Old 10-26-2019, 08:21 PM   #101
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I tested mine while running, at 30 feet you barely hear a putput, at 90 feet you hear nothing. I won't anchor anywhere I would be closer than 90 feet from another boat.

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Thus my post about real experience versus the regurgitated whines too often posted about portable fenders.
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Old 10-26-2019, 10:02 PM   #102
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Personally, I wouldn't be without my Honda on my boat that lacks a genset. It gives me great flexibility and greatly extends my anchoring capabilities. My record is 2 weeks without touching a dock except by dink.

I already carry OB motor gas and I have the ability to store fuel and the genset safely and out of the way in my attic. I secure and operate mine at my otherwise-unused FB bench seat. I'm surprised at how much the FB bench seat helps to insulate the vibrations and baffle the sound.

I agree with Scott...use common sense and pay attention to the details, knowing the risks. Mine only operates during daytime hours when I'm making coffee/battery charging or heating water.

All options carry certain costs, risks and benefits. Carefully analyze what's best for your situation with your guests and loved ones in mind.
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Old 10-27-2019, 03:46 PM   #103
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Before you add a portable Generator please think of all those peaceful place we can all go with our vessels. One boat with a Gas Generator sitting on the swim platform so the boat owner's (who usually have gone off in their dinghy), can barely hear it.


If you have a Diesel Genset onboard use it, don't spoil an anchorage for everyone else. You won't make friends with those you are sharing the anchorage with. They are loud and even louder when on a swim platform.


Let's keep our nice quiet anchorages quiet... Go Solar and get a Simarine battery monitor... best new gizmo we have added to our GB-42. I know exactly what the Panels are putting in and exactly what the fridge and Freezer are taking out, plus a whole lot more info, a great tool.

For the most part I agree, but certainly is off the original topic. And while solar is fine, it won't replace the power of a generator which sometimes is necessary regardless of the anchorages.


Now, as a matter of point, I make an effort to anchor away from other boats, where I can hardly be heard (but can). But as a courtesy a always dinghy over and ask the boats anchored before me if they mind if I run the genny for xxxx to do whatever and have never been turned down.



I did run into a situation where I was docked at a small makeshift marina behind a restaurant where there was no power and the temp was getting down below 45d and needed heat. BIG objection from a sailboat nearby. Ran it for an hour to warm up and then froze.
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Old 10-27-2019, 04:20 PM   #104
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We have only had one negative experience with the Honda, ever. We were at a huge anchorage with only three other boats. Nearest boat was >100 yds away. It was late summer and in the high 80s. We went for a nice long hike. Returned mid-afternoon and I ran the Honda for 20 min to heat the water so we could shower prior to drinks/dinner.

When I turned it off some woman yells out “Yay...finally!” and starts clapping, sarcastically. They were on a sail catamaran. I started loudly clapping back and yelled “I can start it, again”. She went down below...and we enjoyed the rest of our stay.
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I had my Honda 2000 throw a connecting rod at about 2-3 years/150 hrs. I already had the maintenance manual but the problem was that I knew nothing about fixing small engines. It was easy to find the $50 part and have it shipped to me the next day. Fortunately, my buddy knew how to fix it in his SCCA race car shop. I got lucky/blessed!

I know most of us don't have friends who can do that but I think a Honda would be much easier to have serviced locally than any other brand. If you need parts or service in the US, it's tough to beat. Don't know about other regions. They're also tops on reliability...despite the early failure I experienced.

I think the Honda tops all by a big margin.

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Old 10-28-2019, 03:56 PM   #106
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I spent a week at Catalina Island recently and on the first day the exhaust mixer broke of the manifold on my Onan 7.5KW. Fortunately a buddy on a sail boat had a Honda EU2000. We transferred it back and forth all week. He would charge for 1/2 hour and I'd charge for 8.

He had a 30 amp shore power adapter so I tried plugging into my shore #1 and running through My Xantrex Freedom 20 but the generator couldn't supply enough amps to power the F20 and pass through to run the Fridges and Ice Maker.

I ended up plugging into Shore #2 and charging with my house charger, a Xantrex TrueCharge II 40. I then jumped my solenoid that joins the house with the inverter bank and was able to charge the batteries as one bank. This kept everything running and charged enough to make it through each night.

When I got back home I purchased a Harbor Freight Predator 3500 inverter generator, super quiet. It has a 30 amp jack on it so you don't even need an adapter. The shore power cord plugs right in. I tested it at the dock and it can power the whole boat through Shore #1 with #1 and #2 bridged together. I ran both chargers and the kuerig during the test.

I'll never go on an extended trip again without a backup generator although I did repair the Onan and hopefully wont need the portable.

True Story: My wife was coming over the island on the Express the next day so I had her pick up a HF 2000 watt generator and bring it with her so I wouldn't have to swap back and forth. When my wife went to board the Express they wouldn't let her bring the generator on board even though it was brand new in an unopened box. They said nothing gas powered allowed period. Just as well, as the 2000 wasn't really ideal anyway, I returned it and got the 3500.
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Problem is, people can get caught with a portable unit the maker says is quiet even quoting a supporting decibel rating, which turns out to have the noise output of a fully loaded 747(Qantas still has some)departing to cross the Pacific.
Yesterday we inspected 2 40ft trawlers, each with 7Kw Onan EQD. One with a conventional exhaust was quiet, the other with a gas/water separator discharging underwater was quiet bordering on inaudible, you saw it was running by the bubbles surfacing. I can`t imagine it offending anyone. Well, not anyone reasonable.
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Old 10-31-2019, 05:57 AM   #108
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"I think the Honda tops all by a big margin.
Sometimes you get what you pay for."


I think the big gripe is not with Honda or other sets of the camper type , but with contractor grade units .
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Oh no, I bet the most unfamiliar gripe about all of them.
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Old 10-31-2019, 08:18 AM   #110
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"I think the Honda tops all by a big margin.
Sometimes you get what you pay for."


I think the big gripe is not with Honda or other sets of the camper type , but with contractor grade units .
We have 3 inverter gensets one Honda 2000 and 2 Yamaha 2800 units and they are all very good quality - all have more than 1,000 hrs on them and one Yamaha is well over 2,000 hrs now.
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Before you add a portable Generator please think of all those peaceful place we can all go with our vessels. One boat with a Gas Generator sitting on the swim platform so the boat owner's (who usually have gone off in their dinghy), can barely hear it.


If you have a Diesel Genset onboard use it, don't spoil an anchorage for everyone else. You won't make friends with those you are sharing the anchorage with. They are loud and even louder when on a swim platform.


Let's keep our nice quiet anchorages quiet... Go Solar and get a Simarine battery monitor... best new gizmo we have added to our GB-42. I know exactly what the Panels are putting in and exactly what the fridge and Freezer are taking out, plus a whole lot more info, a great tool.
Then why have the genset onboard? It's a waste of space and money if it's not going to be used.

Wherever we've been in the PNW, folks have always been courteous in using their gensets- late morning and late afternoons are generally the times they are on.

Whether built in or portable, to me the genset makes our boating just that much more enjoyable.
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I have a Honda 3000 and I love it. Holds like 2 gallons and runs for 12 hours. Charges and runs my 42’ just fine.
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No problem with these things used properly but this owner was proud of this non-ignition protected, ungrounded unit along with an AC fan in a gasoline engine compartment.
Can't cure stoooopid.
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No problem with these things used properly but this owner was proud of this non-ignition protected, ungrounded unit along with an AC fan in a gasoline engine compartment.
Can't cure stoooopid.
That is a good size fan!

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No problem with these things used properly but this owner was proud of this non-ignition protected, ungrounded unit along with an AC fan in a gasoline engine compartment.
Can't cure stoooopid.
That's insanity, IMO. The guy must have had a death wish.

Where did the exhaust go?
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That's insanity, IMO. The guy must have had a death wish.

Where did the exhaust go?
Into his engine compartment. He figured his blowers would deal with it.
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A tenant on my rental dock did that. Put a household gennie below deck on a gasoline inboard boat. He got a lecture from me and was promptly evicted.

A few months later we got a hurricane that knocked out power for several days. He put a gennie in a doghouse that he built next to his house. Again did not consider what happened to heat and exhaust. The poor thing ran for a while and caught on fire, burning up the whole doghouse. Luckily did not catch anything else on fire.

Can't fix stoopid, indeed.
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Re hot water. Better to use a propane flash heater. Endless hotwater. Unit cost $210 on Amazon.
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Yes, if you have $9,000 plus install cost to spare.
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I saw a modified Honds gennie with a raw water coolant jacket once, mounted outside
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