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Old 12-27-2010, 04:56 AM   #81
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"While heading in the cut at Clewiston met a big sportfish East bound throwing a huge wake. We backed off, let the bow drop, and called the approaching boat. Several people on the flybridge in plain site. No answer and no slowing down."

This is where a WHITE FLAIR works!

They have no idea what it means, so might ask.

$50. for a flair vs a tow to the prop shop, you decide,
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Old 12-27-2010, 06:50 AM   #82
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RE: Passing and being passed

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"While heading in the cut at Clewiston met a big sportfish East bound throwing a huge wake. We backed off, let the bow drop, and called the approaching boat. Several people on the flybridge in plain site. No answer and no slowing down."

This is where a WHITE FLAIR works!

They have no idea what it means, so might ask.

$50. for a flair vs a tow to the prop shop, you decide,
What are you suggesting,* fire it in the air, at them what?

What does it mean?

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Old 12-27-2010, 10:59 AM   #83
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Well, that would be a "flare" not a "flair"
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Old 12-27-2010, 11:55 AM   #84
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RE: Passing and being passed

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Well, that would be a "flare" not a "flair"
Flare -Flair it's all the same to FF.

But the question is what does firing either one off do for you?

And what is a white flare for in the first place?

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Old 12-27-2010, 12:10 PM   #85
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RE: Passing and being passed

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But the question is what does firing either one off do for you?

And what is a white flare for in the first place?
The purpose of a white flare is to caution an approaching vessel of your presence or to illuminate the immediate area.

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Old 12-27-2010, 12:16 PM   #86
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RE: Passing and being passed

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rwidman wrote:

Well, that would be a "flare" not a "flair"
Flare -Flair it's all the same to FF.

But the question is what does firing either one off do for you?

And what is a white flare for in the first place?

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In Arkansas a white flair is something like a lily>* A red flair is something like a rose

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Old 12-27-2010, 12:23 PM   #87
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"In Arkansas a white flair is something like a lily ..."

In the rest of the South, white flares are used at night*to see the lilies and other flurs.

There is a commercial night vision device named after plants that flur only at nat.

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rwidman wrote:

Well, that would be a "flare" not a "flair"
Flare -Flair it's all the same to FF.

But the question is what does firing either one off do for you?

And what is a white flare for in the first place?

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In Arkansas a white flair is something like a lily>* A red flair is something like a rose


Got it.

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Old 12-28-2010, 05:23 AM   #89
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And what is a white flare for in the first place?



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Old 12-28-2010, 09:46 AM   #90
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and what is a white flare for in the first place?



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RE: Passing and being passed

Thought for the benefit of some of our newer members and boat owners that this would be a good thread to revive. *There is some good discussion on passing and being passed. *In narrow channels, giving a good pass is important. The overtaken boat can also make it go better. *So, give a good pass. *The guy you pass may be your slipmate tonight.
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Old 02-23-2012, 12:15 PM   #92
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When we had our sea trial on this boat, as my husband was driving he would*glance around and*behind regularly.* The surveyor said "you don't have to look behind you, you have the right of way over anyone overtaking you."* SERIOUSLY???* * That is crazy talk, IMO.
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* SERIOUSLY???* * That is crazy talk, IMO.
*Definitely.* That's why I wanted a pilothouse with 360-degree visibility.* It's amazing how ships have a habit of sneaking up from behind.
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Old 02-23-2012, 12:33 PM   #94
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The first thing that a boater should do is read the Colregs. This will expose them officially to the fact that there is no "right of way" in boating. There is stand on and give way. But unless I've misinterpreted what I've read--- and that's certainly possible--- this whole "right of way" notion is bogus.

I assume this is because "right of way" implies that someone is totally and legally in the right even if they end up being run into or are caused to run into someone else. Since boats generally have much more latitude in maneuvering to avoid other boats than cars have to avoid other cars on a road, it is the responsibility for both vessels to avoid a collision. But you do need "rules" to serve as a consistent guideline, but guidelines are not "rights."

But more and more boaters seem to equate driving a boat with driving a car (even to more and more boaters in my observation using their bow thrusters to steer even in open water). So they get all hung up on this "right of way" business when in reality there is no such thing.
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Old 02-23-2012, 12:50 PM   #95
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These guys are about the worse, seen here last Friday near Red Rock (south of the Richmond-San Rafael Bridge.)* I hadn't taken his wake seriously enough and rolled heavily.* Good thing the glasses were in the sink.* After passing from behind, he turned around about a mile out and reversed course.* I was prepared for the second pass.


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Old 02-23-2012, 01:06 PM   #96
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These guys are about the worse....
Several years ago I and my crew spent two full days filming everything that moved at JFK International Airport.* The purpose was to obtain a large library of high-def footage of our products being used by a variety of our customers.* So we shot on the runways (literally ON the runways) the taxiways, the ramps, in the control tower, you name it.

We were transported around by two New York Port Authority guys, one in the morning and the other in the afternoon.* They drove us around in a big black Suburban.* And--- since it was the Port Authority--- it was their airport.* They answered to no one.* We drove (usually at about 60 mph) down active taxiways weaving between lined up planes.* We blasted across ramps behind, in front of, and under the wings of taxiing airplanes.* We tore across the grass infields between the runways and taxiways.* We even rocketed down the active runways during the gaps between arriving and departing airplanes.

They were on the radio constantly talking to the tower, but nevertheless they went wherever they wanted whenever they wanted.* It wasn't a matter of "Ground Control, we would like to....." it was "Ground Control we are going to...."

The point of this is that's what your photo is all about.* That's their bay they're blasting around on.* The guys driving are the equivelent of our Port Authority drivers.* Everything else on the bay is simply something not to run into.* But it's their bay.
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*They act as if it is.
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Old 02-23-2012, 03:44 PM   #98
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moon struck I believe you passed me several times this fall Oct was it?
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When we had our sea trial on this boat, as my husband was driving he would*glance around and*behind regularly.* The surveyor said "you don't have to look behind you, you have the right of way over anyone overtaking you."* SERIOUSLY???* * That is crazy talk, IMO.
*Not crazy talk..pretty much accurate...on many vessels you can't see anything astern from the wheelhouse anyhow... so*ANY other vessel has to steer clear of you when they are*overtaking.


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*Not crazy talk..pretty much accurate...on many vessels you can't see anything astern from the wheelhouse anyhow... so*ANY other vessel has to steer clear of you when they are*overtaking.
*Yeah, tell that to the master of the ship overtaking you.
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