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Old 02-14-2015, 08:30 AM   #1
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Need Curly Cord for VHF

I have two Raymarine 230 handset type VHF's with badly disintegrating curly cords. This is the one that looks like a older cell phone where you have the keyboard, mic and speaker all in a hand held unit.

Raymarine wants almost more than the cost of new units to install new cords.

Does anyone have a solution or where I might get it fixed for a reasonable price?
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Old 02-14-2015, 09:50 AM   #2
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I'd be interested in hearing the answer too.

I have a 10-year-old JRC VHF (I think they made them for Raytheon before it was Raymarine) that did the same thing. The outer insulation became brittle and split in multiple locations.
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I'm not sure about the Ray 230 but I just rec'd & installed a new cord for a Ray 215.
See thread CORD for Raymarine 215 VHF post #16 where I've posted pics of the internals - it was a simple plug connection inside the mic. I special ordered the new cord through my local West Marine store and it was around $45.
I got the Ray part # from the Ray technical forum.
BTW - I also contacted Boat US consumer support to try to get Ray to replace these but they hid behind their warranty unlike iCom which have agreed to replace detiorating cords on units out of warranty.
I have recently written to Ray just to inform them I intended to spread the word re: their lack of support for a defective product. I'm now an iCom fan.
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Greetings,
Mr. B. Point noted regarding Raymarine. Thanks.
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Bacchus,

Thanks for reminding me of the previous posts. Unfortunately the 230 is different than a cord that has a screw on plug at the radio end and a small internal plug on the mike. My picture is of the handset. It is wired to the radio itself which is located in a closet. The second handset on the bridge comes in here too as does the antenna. Both cords are shot.

After I read the initial posts I went to West and was told they could not get it. I cannot remember the Ray part number off hand. Would you know where I could find it without calling them?
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Just bought two for my Icoms. I think around $30.00 ea. on the internet. Google is your friend.
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Search turned up the following on the Ray Tech Forum

"The Raymarine Part Number for the Ray230 Mic Cord is: R49085"

I can't verify that that # is correct - I have seen some conflicting part # info there - I had to go back to the moderator to get confirmation on my # as I saw 2 posts w/ different #'s given.
If available they will replace if you send the unit in or send you the part to DIY. You might want to pull the unit(s) apart just to see if it's soldered or plug in.
Like I said, mine was a plug in inside the mic and pretty simple to replace.

Here's another LINK to that part # w/ a photo - again no guarantee the photo is the actual part but it does look to be a 3-way connection - mic - box - 2nd mic? One end looks ;ole identical plug as the one to my Ray 215 Mic

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I'm waiting on a response from Icom. Our IC-M802 cord is shot after 7 years and it's not a sun issue. A new cable is ~$70. The cable on our IC-M125 is like new after 20 plus years. Who can figure? I'll post what Icom says.
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The following was found in the BoatUS Consumer Protection Database under ICOM -(You need to be a Boat US member to access the database) - but it looks like ICOM is standing behind their products vs Raytheon which is HIDING behind their warranty - no action for out of warranty

Date: 2/11/2013

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Company: ICOM America, Inc.

Product/Model: VHF M-602 (microphone #HM-136B), HF Marine M-802 (microphone HM-135) and Command Microphone HM-127B, (OTHER MODELS MAY BE AFFECTED)

Product/Model Year: Various

Complaint:
If someone owns an ICOM product with a microphone who's cable/cord's protective jacket is crumbling or peeling off in chunks, they should contact ICOM America, Inc. at the contact information below.

Complaint Resolution:
Icom Technical Support on 2/11/13 said that if anyone has a microphone cable that is crumbling, they should send the cable and microphone to them at the address below and fill out their form online (make a copy for yourself) and if ICOM finds that if the microphone is fine but the cable is bad they will replace the cable regardless of whether the product is still under warranty. ICOM Contact information: Attached is the repair submission form for their Icom Marine mics. Service My Product - Icom America Thank you, Harry Dhawan Land Mobile Technical Support Representative ICOM America, Inc. 2380 116th Ave. NE Bellevue, WA 98004
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Larry...it looks like ICOM is standing behind their products...ICOM Contact information: Attached is the repair submission form for their Icom Marine mics. Service My Product - Icom America Thank you, Harry Dhawan Land Mobile Technical Support Representative ICOM America, Inc. 2380 116th Ave. NE Bellevue, WA 98004
Don: Thanks for the info. It's nice to see a manufacturer who recognizes they have an issue and hasn't forgotten about us, the customer.
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Bacchus,

Thanks for the link to the photo. That's it. The parts for sale there include an extension cord which I don't thank that I need.

I can see where the plug inside the hand set would be pretty easy. It is the other end of the curly cord that is in a junction box with three wires coming out. One wire is the other end of the curly cord going in and the other two go to the extension cords and on to the radio. I took the junction box apart a few minutes ago and everything inside looked to be above my pay grade.
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I'm only guessing but photo looks like it comes as a complete unit...
Junction block w/ 3 cords - each w/ a plug - shouldn't be all that difficult to replace.
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My Raymatine radio is suffering from the same disease. I've never been a big fan of Raymarine products. From the sounds of it I'll be replacing the unit with a ICOM product.
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Bacchus,

It is a complete unit. One of the three is the end of the curly cord, one goes a very short distance to a plug and the other one is long. I have not crawled under my bridge console far enough to see where the end of the long one is. It looks to be about 12' long. I hope it does not disappear into a wire run. I have got to wonder why they would put one short wire and one long wire. Why not put two short ones that one could unplug? The 12' wire is not long enough to reach the radio itself.
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"I'll be replacing the unit with a ICOM product"

That's my ultimate plan when needed. This is my first (and last) experience w/ Ray products as they came w/ my boat. I have written back to Ray expressing my disappointment in their hiding behind warranty period when they clearly have a quality problem with a key piece of marine safety equipment. I'll never buy a Ray VHF!!
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" I have got to wonder why they would put one short wire and one long wire."

Have you checked your or searched the Ray site for manual for your radio?
I have found both installation & operation manuals online for Ray products.

Here is on 230 Manual I found.

If you look at the connection diagram it shows the 3 wires... I forgot about the ext speaker... they do show a plug in extension as well. Looks like 2nd & 3rd mic's are separate cords.
You may be able to get away w/ the shorter cords alone if you can find the plugs and balance of wiring is OK.
My boat (fortunately) has many pull cords left in the wire chases which allow pulling new wires when / if req'd - just be sure to pull another or you lose the ability in the future.

Again - Good Luck
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Bacchus,

Now I know that the center wire goes to the external speaker which means that the wire stays on the bridge rather than diving down into the engine room and then back up to the cabinet containing the radio. Great information. I have another 230 in the main salon with the external speaker about an inch away.

I have to leave town tomorrow for a couple of weeks so I'll investigate further later.

Thanks for all the help.
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...it looks like ICOM is standing behind their product...
I received this email from Icom today regarding the microphone cable for our M-802 HF radio. Thanks again Don.

> From: MaryScanlon@IcomAmerica.com
> To: lenalarry@.......com
> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 11:43:47 -0800
> Subject: FW: Sent from Icom America Website: IC-M802 Microphone Cable Crumbling
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> For crumbling cord replacement at no charge (if that is the only problem with the microphone) please ship to one of the below service centers for replacement, whichever is closer to you.
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> ICOM America, Inc.
> 12421 Willows Road N.E.
> Kirkland, WA 98034
> ATTN: SERVICE DEPT
> (800) 306.1380
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> OR.............
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> Williams Communications
> 5046 Tennessee Capital Blvd.
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> (800) 649.5783
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> Mary Scanlon KB7SDO
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> 425.450.6096 office
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According to the Raymarine Forum moderator the long wire goes to the VHF base station which is in the guest stateroom...a very long wire run from the bridge. Why oh why do they do this? The headset in the main salon is very close to the base station.
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I'm not sure about the Ray 230 but I just rec'd & installed a new cord for a Ray 215.

See thread CORD for Raymarine 215 VHF post #16 where I've posted pics of the internals - it was a simple plug connection inside the mic. I special ordered the new cord through my local West Marine store and it was around $45.

I got the Ray part # from the Ray technical forum.

BTW - I also contacted Boat US consumer support to try to get Ray to replace these but they hid behind their warranty unlike iCom which have agreed to replace detiorating cords on units out of warranty.

I have recently written to Ray just to inform them I intended to spread the word re: their lack of support for a defective product. I'm now an iCom fan.

Unless something has changed Icom's ram mics, by design, fail if you plug in the ram mic with the main radio turned on. I burned up two of them before I figured out what was happening. I talked with the Icom's techs at the Miami boat show three years ago and they confirmed that was the case. I went with Standard Horizon which allows for plugging and unplugging the Ram mic all day long without failure.
Just FYI.
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