Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 08-13-2017, 10:04 PM   #1
Senior Member
 
Dune's Avatar
 
City: Coastal SC
Country: USA
Vessel Model: Viking 65 CP MY (run at trawler speeds !)
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 388
is Intellian HD dome and KVH TracVision 4 only good for TV ? (not internet ?)

I'm moving the boat to a marina that has no Wi-Fi or cable TV. The boat came with a satellite dome and receiver, but I've never used it and know nothing about it.

The sat dome is an Intellian HD but the control seems to be a KVH TracVision 4. Is there any way this can be used for sat internet or is this for TV only ?

And if so, is that why some boats have two domes...one for TV and the other for internet data ? (and yeah I know often enough the second one is for nothing...a fake just to look cool !)

I can get internet via creating my own "hot spot" on the iPhone....but it's pretty limiting from a gigabyte data limitation perspective....I'd max it out in no time unless I upgraded the capacity to a rather costly situation. Same deal with those stand alone cell data network devices....even 90 bucks a month doesn't get you much data...not enough to even watch one web based movie.

Thoughts ?
__________________
Advertisement

Dune is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2017, 10:19 PM   #2
Guru
 
Lou_tribal's Avatar
 
City: Quebec
Country: Canada
Vessel Name: Bleuvet
Vessel Model: Custom Built
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 3,514
Internet via sat would be far more expensive than cellular data plan.

L.
__________________

Lou_tribal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-18-2017, 05:20 AM   #3
Guru
 
catalinajack's Avatar
 
City: Edgewater, MD
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Catalina Jack
Vessel Model: Defever 44
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 968
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dune View Post
I'm moving the boat to a marina that has no Wi-Fi or cable TV. The boat came with a satellite dome and receiver, but I've never used it and know nothing about it.

The sat dome is an Intellian HD but the control seems to be a KVH TracVision 4. Is there any way this can be used for sat internet or is this for TV only ?

And if so, is that why some boats have two domes...one for TV and the other for internet data ? (and yeah I know often enough the second one is for nothing...a fake just to look cool !)

I can get internet via creating my own "hot spot" on the iPhone....but it's pretty limiting from a gigabyte data limitation perspective....I'd max it out in no time unless I upgraded the capacity to a rather costly situation. Same deal with those stand alone cell data network devices....even 90 bucks a month doesn't get you much data...not enough to even watch one web based movie.

Thoughts ?
Sometimes, probaby always, the second dome is decorative, an empty shell.
catalinajack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-18-2017, 05:31 AM   #4
Guru
 
drb1025's Avatar
 
City: Bellevue, WA
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Fiddler
Vessel Model: DeFever 46
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 607
Quote:
Originally Posted by catalinajack View Post
Sometimes, probaby always, the second dome is decorative, an empty shell.


Heck of a sales job. I met a boater this summer and asked about the two domes on his boat. One was tv and the other was decorative. He seemed a little embarrassed to say the second one was to simply provide visual balance. Maybe it was the surprised look on my face, as I had not heard of this before.
drb1025 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-18-2017, 05:39 AM   #5
Senior Member
 
Dune's Avatar
 
City: Coastal SC
Country: USA
Vessel Model: Viking 65 CP MY (run at trawler speeds !)
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 388
Quote:
Originally Posted by catalinajack View Post
Sometimes, probaby always, the second dome is decorative, an empty shell.
There is an echo in here..... didn't I already mention that ?
Dune is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-18-2017, 11:52 PM   #6
TF Site Team
 
Insequent's Avatar
 
City: Brisbane
Country: Australia
Vessel Name: Insequent
Vessel Model: Ocean Alexander 50 Mk I
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 2,359
Here's another echo - you just don't wanna watch web based movies via Sat data!

Almost certainly your dome and controller is TV only. Domes for data are a lot more expensive than the TV ones, and the data charges/plans are usually in MB (and not many, either) rather than gigabytes. You won't want to be using sat data for anything other than emails, and skip the attachments.

And if you by chance do have a fancy data system on board, beware of how its configured. A guy here started downloading two movies via WiFi, but then united from the dock and headed out into the bay. His data system seamlessly switched from WiFi download to Satellite download. He got his movies just fine. He also received a $15,000 satellite data bill later in the month! Needless to say, he now has things configured a bit differently.
__________________
Brian
Insequent is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-2017, 12:58 AM   #7
Senior Member
 
City: Houston
Country: USA
Vessel Name: AlegrŪa
Vessel Model: Overblue 48
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 237
Aren't the satellite domes receive only?
Cottontop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-2017, 05:06 PM   #8
Member
 
TwoDot's Avatar
 
City: Everett
Country: USA
Vessel Name: TwoDot II
Vessel Model: Navigator 5100
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 20
I just had to install a new KVH TV3 satellite antenna on our boat shortly after taking ownership. I asked about internet and they said you couldn't get it with the TV antenna. I did have a second "fake" antenna but got rid of it.
TwoDot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-2017, 05:33 PM   #9
Guru
 
Bigsfish's Avatar
 
City: Miami River
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Gotcha
Vessel Model: Grand Banks. Heritage. 54
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 2,590
A done could also be for a sat phone. The fake dome has been known to smuggle drugs. Lots of uses. LOL
Bigsfish is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-2017, 06:09 PM   #10
Guru
 
Woodland Hills's Avatar
 
City: Jacksonville
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Alzero
Vessel Model: Hatteras 63' CPMY
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 832
Our land home has satellite internet via Hughes.net, we use it to watch/stream TV all the time....... It's not as fast as a copper wire or fiber optic, but it is acceptable. I don't see why you couldn't access their satellite just as well as Directv's once you had an account.
Woodland Hills is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-2018, 10:32 AM   #11
Senior Member
 
MOJO's Avatar
 
City: Florida
Country: US
Vessel Name: MOJO
Vessel Model: Beebe 49-10 Passagemaker in steel
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 108
High speed internet via satellite (vs. satellite phone) requires a very stable platform - more stable than you can get on a boat. This is why you can't use Hughes.net on the boat. The satellite antenna systems do not have the accuracy and stability needed to transmit high speed data back up to the satellite - unless you have a budget the size of the military! Had a friend who wanted to put a Hughes.net antenna on piling in his marina. The FCC technician told him it wasn't allowed, that the piling moved too much (a couple of inches) and that his transmissions might interfere with other data if the dish wasn't steady. Typical receive only satellite TV signals have a beamwidth of +/- 3-4 degrees (in the US) so a little bit of motion is relatively easy to correct with a tracking system. High speed internet is much much less tolerant requiring much more sophisticated (i.e., very expensive) tracking. That makes in commercially not viable.
MOJO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-2018, 12:44 PM   #12
Guru
 
Alaskan Sea-Duction's Avatar
 
City: Inside Passage Summer/Columbia River Winter
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Alaskan Sea-Duction
Vessel Model: 1988 M/Y Camargue YachtFisher
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 4,811
We have 1 dome, an old KVH M7. Just Direct TV, non high Def. During the boat show we checked into a high Def, $13,500.00 for a new dish! I paid less than 2K for my "old" system.

If you want internet, another dish or there are different way. We use our cell phones with blue tooth to access the internet.

BYW a single dome looks sexy! We call ours "The nipple!"
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0341.jpg
Views:	53
Size:	42.4 KB
ID:	72900   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0342.jpg
Views:	57
Size:	118.7 KB
ID:	72901  
Alaskan Sea-Duction is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-2018, 08:18 PM   #13
Guru
 
tiltrider1's Avatar
 
City: Seattle
Country: USA
Vessel Name: AZZURRA
Vessel Model: Ocean Alexander 54
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 1,522
A friend of mine has an internet satellite antenna on his boat. His monthly bill is $15,000. That is not a typo. He says it’s cheap compared to the cost of crew.

I looked into it. Would cost me $1500 a month. More than I want to spend.
tiltrider1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-13-2018, 02:36 AM   #14
Guru
 
catalinajack's Avatar
 
City: Edgewater, MD
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Catalina Jack
Vessel Model: Defever 44
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 968
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alaskan Sea-Duction View Post
We have 1 dome, an old KVH M7. Just Direct TV, non high Def. During the boat show we checked into a high Def, $13,500.00 for a new dish! I paid less than 2K for my "old" system.

If you want internet, another dish or there are different way. We use our cell phones with blue tooth to access the internet.

BYW a single dome looks sexy! We call ours "The nipple!"
If one wants HD television, consider Intellian. For about $2,500 and a Dish RV account, one can get the normal Dish program packages including locals wherever one happens to be. Plus, boaters can establish an RV account which is month-to-month and can be suspended ( not camcelled) at will. I did a self-install. KVH is wildly expensive plus getting network stations requires account gymnastics.
__________________

catalinajack is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off





All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:42 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2006 - 2012
×