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03-23-2017, 04:47 PM
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Guru
City: Punta Gorda, FL
Vessel Name: Aweigh
Vessel Model: Nordic Tug 42
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Guest Spotlight Switch
Guest wants almost $70 for this M 100 spotlight switch, which is really two switches side by side. I only need the on/off switch which has three spades connected.
Doe anyone know what I need to search for?
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03-23-2017, 04:55 PM
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Guru
City: Cypress Landing Marina (NC)
Vessel Name: Heron (2)
Vessel Model: '88 Cape Dory 28 Flybridge #115
Join Date: Nov 2014
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A simple SPST switch. $5-10
3 leads? Most simple On/off switches have only 2. A "hot lead" connected when switched on, and off when that is disconnected..
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03-23-2017, 05:02 PM
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Guru
City: Punta Gorda, FL
Vessel Name: Aweigh
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Heron
A simple SPST switch. $5-10
3 leads? Most simple On/off switches have only 2. A "hot lead" and off..
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The joy stick won't work unless the switch is on so would it be a SPDT?
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03-23-2017, 05:07 PM
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Guru
City: Cypress Landing Marina (NC)
Vessel Name: Heron (2)
Vessel Model: '88 Cape Dory 28 Flybridge #115
Join Date: Nov 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by seasalt007
The joy stick won't work unless the switch is on so would it be a SPDT?
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Maybe so...You'd have to meter it and see where the power is going..
An SPDT would have 2 "ons". One up, one down from the center off position. That panel only shows an on and off
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03-23-2017, 06:31 PM
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Guru
City: Cary, NC
Vessel Name: Skinny Dippin'
Vessel Model: Navigator 4200 Classic
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I have two Guest panels on my boat I don't use. I took the light off because it didn't move anymore (and a few other reasons) Let me take a picture of it and I will give it to you for free if you want it.
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2000 Navigator 4200 Classic
(NOT a trawler)
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03-23-2017, 06:53 PM
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City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
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The switch may have three spade connectors because it mat be a lit switch...but is still SPST switch as it is only on off for a power line.
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03-23-2017, 07:08 PM
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City: Gig Harbor
Vessel Name: Kinship
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Quote:
Originally Posted by psneeld
The switch may have three spade connectors because it mat be a lit switch...but is still SPST switch as it is only on off for a power line.
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Three spade connectors could be for +, ground, and the light.
If it is an LED SPST switch, ebay or amazon are great options. You can buy 10 of these for under $10 bucks. http://tinyurl.com/l7yf58m
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03-24-2017, 05:53 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
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Use a real marine switch , not an auto zone .
Cole Hersey is first choice , waterproof with plated contacts.
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03-24-2017, 08:22 AM
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City: Gig Harbor
Vessel Name: Kinship
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FF
Use a real marine switch , not an auto zone .
Cole Hersey is first choice , waterproof with plated contacts.
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If the spotlight control is on a flybridge, I would agree with you. If it is at a helm station in the PH, a waterproof switch is a bit of overkill. How often does your Pilothouse helm station take on water? Probably as often as the cab of a truck.
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03-24-2017, 09:42 AM
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Guru
City: Cypress Landing Marina (NC)
Vessel Name: Heron (2)
Vessel Model: '88 Cape Dory 28 Flybridge #115
Join Date: Nov 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by psneeld
The switch may have three spade connectors because it mat be a lit switch...but is still SPST switch as it is only on off for a power line.
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I think we have a winner...Hot center, On at the other position with a jumper from there to the other spade which illuminates the light. Lighted SPST
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03-24-2017, 12:55 PM
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City: Punta Gorda, FL
Vessel Name: Aweigh
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Here is what it looks like from the bottom. Left is On/Off switch with three spades connected and right is joystick control.
All I can see on the On/Off switch is On/Off and a paper tag saying Made in China
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03-24-2017, 01:41 PM
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City: Gig Harbor
Vessel Name: Kinship
Vessel Model: North Pacific 43
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Check with a multimeter. I would assume red is hot, black is neutral, and not sure about the gray.
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03-24-2017, 03:02 PM
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City: Quebec
Vessel Name: Bleuvet
Vessel Model: Custom Built
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First thing: Does your switch have a light or not?
If it does light on when you turn it on the grey should be the light power source as mentioned before. Usually the light power is a bridge coming from the + (red) spade but it can also be coming from the instrumentation light power source like for a gauge on your dashboard.
Just an assumption...
L.
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03-24-2017, 04:32 PM
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City: Gig Harbor
Vessel Name: Kinship
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lou_tribal
First thing: Does your switch have a light or not?
If it does light on when you turn it on the grey should be the light power source as mentioned before. Usually the light power is a bridge coming from the + (red) spade but it can also be coming from the instrumentation light power source like for a gauge on your dashboard.
Just an assumption...
L.
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I have the same controls on my boat. The led switch light up when it is flipped to the ON position. I just have never taken it out and looked at the back. So it wouldn't necessarily have a separate hot lead for the LED.
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03-24-2017, 06:01 PM
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City: Quebec
Vessel Name: Bleuvet
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Here you are:
Rocker Switch Wiring
red the power feed, the grey the wire to your load (your light), the black the ground.
Simple SPST switch.
(Forgve my stupid post above sometimes I am typing faster than I think )
L.
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03-24-2017, 07:23 PM
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Master and Commander
City: Vallejo CA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
Vessel Model: penultimate Seahorse Marine Coot hull #6
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My spotlight control-switch cost lots more when replacing the installed 12v on a 24v circuit.
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03-24-2017, 07:45 PM
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City: Cape May, NJ
Vessel Name: Irish Lady
Vessel Model: Monk 36
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Yep. SPST illuminated toggle. There is no other reason to have the black wire there for this app.
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Irish Lady
1984 Monk 36 Hull #46
Currently in Cape May, NJ
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03-27-2017, 02:17 PM
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Guru
City: Punta Gorda, FL
Vessel Name: Aweigh
Vessel Model: Nordic Tug 42
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Got over to boat this morning and it has an illuminated toggle when it is turned on.
Why so many wires on the same spade?
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03-29-2017, 07:36 PM
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Guru
City: Cape May, NJ
Vessel Name: Irish Lady
Vessel Model: Monk 36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by seasalt007
Why so many wires on the same spade?
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The manufacturer minimizes the number of crimp connections in the harness.
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Archie
Irish Lady
1984 Monk 36 Hull #46
Currently in Cape May, NJ
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03-29-2017, 08:18 PM
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Guru
City: Gibsons, B.C., Canada
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Vessel Model: Palmer 32'
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Grounds on panels are often daisy chained. Saves money from less wire, fewer connections, less space used and time. Not always good as a problem on the final run can affect everything connected instead of just one item if all are individually connected,
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