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Old 03-09-2013, 04:34 PM   #41
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How did this thread turn from gensets ot picture uploads? Shouldn't that be a seperate thgread in a different place?
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Old 03-09-2013, 06:44 PM   #42
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Old 03-09-2013, 10:46 PM   #43
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I do not yet own a boat but am looking at 50 foot Trawlers

No flaming please, serious questions.

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Normally I don't respond the these things but seems these two lines explains everything.
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Old 03-10-2013, 07:02 AM   #44
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"And Diesel to cook with."

I LOVE the Dickinson range , but most folks find it a PIA to keep lighting during the summer as it takes a while to warm up.

Many folks will compromise with a 2 burner propane unit on top for the summer.

Our solution was to simply install a second gymboled 4 burner propane range and oven.

The out of use range gets a cover board so is always useful as needed counter space.

A swinging stove is rare on motor boats but comes in handy when underway when being waked.

Esp since the range is outboard against the hull ( UGH!!!) where a departing pot has a 50/50 chance of scalding the cook!!
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Thank you ladies and gentleman for yout patience and understanding. Thank you for your spot on responses to my OP. I apologise for my impatience regarding posting of my sons ship.

If the members want to see more of the "big boat" let me know and I will post them.

I have been aboard for a 5 day cruise previously and am going on another in April.

I ask A LOT of questions, so expect them here and I welcome them regarding the USS John C. Stennis, CVN 74.

FYI the Stennis has two Diesel electric generators that each produce 2000 KW at 4160.
The exhaust stacks route through my sons work space. Besides my sons gun being loud, the EG's are LOUD.

I miss my son to the point of tears, so that anyone who doubts his or another Sailors service spools me up. Sorry.

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"And Diesel to cook with."

I LOVE the Dickinson range , but most folks find it a PIA to keep lighting during the summer as it takes a while to warm up.

Many folks will compromise with a 2 burner propane unit on top for the summer.

Our solution was to simply install a second gymboled 4 burner propane range and oven.

The out of use range gets a cover board so is always useful as needed counter space.

A swinging stove is rare on motor boats but comes in handy when underway when being waked.

Esp since the range is outboard against the hull ( UGH!!!) where a departing pot has a 50/50 chance of scalding the cook!!
When using Propane what is the moisture like in a cold enviorment like the PNW?
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Old 03-10-2013, 09:43 PM   #47
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FYI the Stennis has two Diesel electric generators that each produce 2000 KW at 4160
She actually has four SSDG (Ship's Service Diesel Generators) that build a total of 8,000KW. They'll keep up with all casualty power and get the reactors back online. No such thing as unlimited power though... even for an aircraft carrier.
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Old 03-11-2013, 07:03 AM   #48
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When using Propane what is the moisture like in a cold enviorment like the PNW?

The propane fridge is outside on the aft deck, so cold outside simply means less propane burn.

Cooking on a propane range , even with 3 or 4 burners working adds little moisture , after all if its cold in 40s F we have the diesel range cranked and it is of course vented topside..

On something like a south run on the ICW , after breakfast the iron topsail is cranked and the boat is warmed like a car with coolant and radiators w fans (box heaters) .

A tiny amount of ventilation will remove stove gas output , most boats are not tight enough to notice.Assuming its not 22 ft LOA.

A live aboard wit any style fuel stove propane , kerosene or alcohol will always have moisture problems with windows fogging. Glass is no insulation.

The simple solution is to insulate the window with plastic film that cam be shrunk tight with a hair dryer& double stick tape. Inside or outside , do both if below 0-F is common.

Home cheapo at the start of winter has it by the roll.
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Jim, don't let being in the PNW keep you from considering a boat that has heat and A/C. We live in the desert part of the PNW and use the A/C a lot in the summer and, since we boat all year we use the heat a fair amount. There are some days in the San Juans when it's nice to have the A/C and lots of days when the heat feels pretty nice.

Our boat has a 15KW genset to supply the all-electric galley, the heat and A/C units and other power using equipment. There have been a few times when we've been running the four heat/A/C units, the stove, TV and other electronics. It's nice to be able to do that without having to worry about turning some things off so we can use others.
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When using Propane what is the moisture like in a cold enviorment like the PNW?
Here's my blog post on that subject:

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Hi we might have to switch to electric stove. Was wondering if you think a house battery or genset would need to be used. Don't have an inverter yet, on the list. Wouldn't be running W/D and unnecessary stuff at the same time and not cooking a turkey. This propane issue is almost a no win situation.

Diesel Stove ??
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Old 03-15-2013, 04:50 PM   #52
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Hi we might have to switch to electric stove. Was wondering if you think a house battery or genset would need to be used................
Trying to operate an electric range from a battery and inverter would be a losing proposition. You would need an industrial sized inverter and enough batteries to where weight is a consideration. And you would have to run the boat for days to recharge the batteries.

I cook with a propane stove and it's as good or better than my natural gas stove at home. An ABYC compliant stove and propane system is not inexpensive, but it's a great solution for cooking away from shore power.

Someone else will have to tell you about diesel stoves, I am not familiar with them.
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We cook with propane (in the PNW) and it's never been a problem.
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Diesel stove is the alternative. Electric stove on an inverter is a non-starter IMO.
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We cook with propane (in the PNW) and it's never been a problem.
Again! I agree!
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Old 03-24-2013, 07:17 AM   #56
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For mere cooking it takes us at least 2 sometimes 3 months to go thru a 20# bottle of Propane. 4 Burners oven, broiler.The bride loves to bake pies.

Since there is less than 5 gal of fuel in a 20# tank , the division of 5 gal by 60 to 90 days will show not much water is put into the air.

Even tho 1.2 gal of water is created by burning gal of propane.

Simple cooking with propane is a non problem.
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