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Old 10-06-2016, 02:18 PM   #41
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If you are ever down in Bellingham give me a ring and I will show you exactly what you are looking for as that is how it installed on Ebbtide.

I will PM you my number.

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Old 10-06-2016, 02:51 PM   #42
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If you are ever down in Bellingham give me a ring and I will show you exactly what you are looking for as that is how it installed on Ebbtide.

I will PM you my number.

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Thanks Bob, will for sure take you up on that!
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Old 12-30-2016, 09:34 AM   #43
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We have a Garmin 2010C Chartplotter that came with our boat upon purchase but cannot be updated according to Garmin. My question is, "does anyone use a Macbook Pro with Garmin BlueCharts"? I have read through many of the discussions and see many iPad users (I have an iPad 2), but do not see anyone using a MacBook Pro.
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Old 12-30-2016, 12:01 PM   #44
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Hi MM,

Our 26-footer has a Garmin 2006C, just like your 2010C except for screen size. Bought new in 2002. Updated its software a few times over the first several years we had it, and have had no need to update since. Still works very well.

Updated the chart chips a few times too, but not in the last several years. OTOH, we cruise the Inside Passage, and the rocks there don't move around very much....
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Old 12-30-2016, 12:32 PM   #45
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Garmin does not work on a Macbook Pro. However Garmin works great on the iPad.
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Old 12-30-2016, 02:43 PM   #46
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A hard case minimalist compass-chart-binoculars vhf radio. Add depth finder if you are up for one electronic device. I navigated on East cost for over 20 years with that set up and only got slightly lost at night once on my first long trip at Plum Gut entrance LI Sound which resolved after I found a buoy and hove to until day light.
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Old 12-30-2016, 03:07 PM   #47
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VHF (existing hard mount both stations)
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iPad for Navionics (iPad Pro 12.9")
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Yes - I have a hard mounted Raymarine (old) depth sounder on the flybridge, a decent Garmin GPS, and recently removed Raymarine (old) analog radar. I have a hard mount compass at both stations.

I did this so I could have exactly the same instrumentation at both stations - and everything is wireless - and we can be anywhere on the boat and know what is going on in real time... and it can all be taken inside and locked up. We're not passage makers and it suits us just fine. And everything totaled under $2500.

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Old 12-30-2016, 03:15 PM   #48
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Thanks for all the great ideas and feedback. I appreciate everyone taking the time.


I think what makes the most sense for me is a Garmin multi-function display with depth displayed and a chart plotter for now. I like the idea of being able to add radar when and if I choose.I will also keep an iPad with iSalor (and maybe some other apps) as back up and of course I also have an iPhone which can run the same apps if all else fails so I feel pretty good about my redundancies. And of course I will have a modern VHF and a handheld as a back-up. I will ensure I play with a Garmin at the next chance I get to make sure itís for me but it certainly sounds like a great and likely option.
Wannabe - I think you are on the right track with a Garmin MFD. You can integrate as much or as little as you want. (radar, autopilot, engine gauges, depth sounder) . I've found the Garmin package to be very intuitive and reliable.
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VHF (existing hard mount both stations)
Bad Elf GPS Receiver (Bluetooth)
Navionics
iPad for Navionics (iPad Pro 12.9")
Furuno DRS4W First Watch Wireless Radar
iPad for Furuno radar app (an old one I had)
Raymarine T111Multifunction Wireless Dual Display (Speed / Depth)
Raymarine ST6000 Autopilot (also old)

Yes - I have a hard mounted Raymarine (old) depth sounder on the flybridge, a decent Garmin GPS, and recently removed Raymarine (old) analog radar. I have a hard mount compass at both stations.

I did this so I could have exactly the same instrumentation at both stations - and everything is wireless - and we can be anywhere on the boat and know what is going on in real time... and it can all be taken inside and locked up. We're not passage makers and it suits us just fine. And everything totaled under $2500.

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I think the iPad is the proper marine electronics refuge for cost, simplicity, diversity, innovation and power, and for emerging platform maturity. The rest I leave to the competition. (Disclosure - i make iPad instrument enclosures, but plead innocence).

Available in February and would love to see some marine installs.
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We have a Garmin 2010C Chartplotter that came with our boat upon purchase but cannot be updated according to Garmin. My question is, "does anyone use a Macbook Pro with Garmin BlueCharts"? I have read through many of the discussions and see many iPad users (I have an iPad 2), but do not see anyone using a MacBook Pro.
I have been very happy using MacENC with MacbookPros (now on my second unit, I get about 5 years out of one) for about 10 years. Excellent support. I like the looks of both OpenCPN and Polar Navy from seeing them on other's machines, if you are especially cheap.

Here is a good archive of discussions regarding using Apple devices for marine purposes.

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Thank you for the MacENC info - I think that will be very helpful
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Garmin does not work on a Macbook Pro. However Garmin works great on the iPad.
Garmin Blue chart works fine on my MacBook Pro, but need the chart data plugged in.

However, it's too cumbersome for use on the helm and screen display not bright enough. Would be good for using inside, in the planning area.
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I think the iPad is the proper marine electronics refuge for cost, simplicity, diversity, innovation and power, and for emerging platform maturity. The rest I leave to the competition. (Disclosure - i make iPad instrument enclosures, but plead innocence).

Available in February and would love to see some marine installs.
What sizes will this facilitate? Nice product and great idea.

Does anyone have a good preference for a USB power bar that plugs into a 12V outlet? Need to keep the iPad units charged.

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What sizes will this facilitate? Nice product and great idea.

Does anyone have a good preference for a USB power bar that plugs into a 12V outlet? Need to keep the iPad units charged.

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The present Poorts fit only the standard 9.7" iPads, any generation. Or the Samsung S2 9.7" tablet, for a shipboard fixed cellular phone, or a kitchen phone like in the old days? When they are mounted over a countertop 110V outlet, Poorts can hide the outlet and any cables, and they are always charged.

For marine installs the car usb adapter that plugs into the cigarette lighter slot, also common on boats, is the simplest approach. This dedicated 12V one looks cool: https://goo.gl/ejs5Dr

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Does anyone have a good preference for a USB power bar that plugs into a 12V outlet? Need to keep the iPad units charged.

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Why not get one of the flush mount USB multi ports and wire it into the 12v power source?

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Oh baloney!

More equipment doesn't make you a better navigator.

To the OP, just get a system that has its own network and display everything on your iWhatevers.
You are correct, my sons & I sailed from Cape Cod, MA to Trinadad and back stoping at hundreds of islands using compass, paper charts and a Garmin 120. Instruments do not a navigator make.
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Oh baloney!

More equipment doesn't make you a better navigator.

To the OP, just get a system that has its own network and display everything on your iWhatevers.
You are correct, my sons & I sailed from Cape Cod, MA to Trinadad and back stoping at hundreds of islands using compass, paper charts and a Garmin 120. Instruments do not a navigator make.[/QUOTE]

Ageed,

More equipment doesn't improve your skills, but SURE improves your capability for a voyage, especially when the equipment give you info that you didn't have.

I could argue strongly to have a quiver of good equipment that gives you more info, which equates to a safer and more comfortable passage.

Some of these devices include a good GPS map, radar, depth and sonar capability, weather input, and a bunch of others. ,

The best navigator can still be blind without good info.

I'll take the equipment anytime over blind luck, or a guess.
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I don't know about you guys but I love electronics. If we had the money I'd put a whole suite of new chart plotters, echo sounders, radars, flir and what ever else I could find. Why? Because it's more fun to play with all that stuff. I can navigate anywhere you like with a magnetic compass, paper chart etc but where's the fun in that.

Does all this electronic gear make it safer or easier. Absolutely if you know how to use but if you don't it can be a dangerous distraction in some situations where you should be keeping a proper look out.

If we had to go the minimalist route somthing like the Simrad GO9 that will do almost all you want in a chart plotter and echo sounder. You can add radar to it later and have a second station with an IPad. Might be worth consideration.
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I don't know about you guys but I love electronics. If we had the money I'd put a whole suite of new chart plotters, echo sounders, radars, flir and what ever else I could find. Why? Because it's more fun to play with all that stuff. I can navigate anywhere you like with a magnetic compass, paper chart etc but where's the fun in that.

Does all this electronic gear make it safer or easier. Absolutely if you know how to use but if you don't it can be a dangerous distraction in some situations where you should be keeping a proper look out.

If we had to go the minimalist route somthing like the Simrad GO9 that will do almost all you want in a chart plotter and echo sounder. You can add radar to it later and have a second station with an IPad. Might be worth consideration.
my boat has plenty of electronics and back ups. I keep in mind that a fully staffed navy ship ran hard aground running on a electronics package and that type of thing is not all that rare. Paper charts good binoculars a corrected compass and a depth finder are what I ultimately rely on inland and coastal.
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my boat has plenty of electronics and back ups. I keep in mind that a fully staffed navy ship ran hard aground running on a electronics package and that type of thing is not all that rare. Paper charts good binoculars a corrected compass and a depth finder are what I ultimately rely on inland and coastal.
Agree with most points here, and often less is more. Personally I am amazed as to what can be bought these days, especially in the solid state realm for fairly reasonable amounts of $. If someone is willing to spend the practice time, these newer systems are very user friendly.

Question - if you are running at night, which I assume you must do once in awhile, how do you get a fix to DR/plot with your paper chart and compass?
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