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Old 08-25-2015, 09:56 AM   #41
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Had a chance to try out the new binoculars in varying conditions over the weekend, so figured I should report back. For those who have not read the thread, we already had a pair of Nikon OceanPro 7x50s. We bought them in 2001, and have been very happy with them. During our 9-day cruise I accidentally dropped them off the helm seat which caused one of the prisms to go out of alignment. We have already been in touch with Nikon and are sending them in for repairs. In the mean time, we decided that (a) we don't want to be without a pair while Nikons are out for repair and (b) we really need two sets as my wife and I use them all the time (both for navigation and watching the shore/wildlife).

The new pair are Steiner Navigator Pro 7x50s. These are the middle of the line Steiner marine binoculars (between the Mariner and Commander series). They were about $100 or so more than a new pair of Nikon Ocean Pros. Now to the review.

In mid-day light, we didn't notice much of a difference from the Nikons. The view seemed a little more sharp, but that i likely because the lenses were factory new and clean. I did notice a little less glare, likely due to the new coatings. Where they really shined was in low light (dawn and dusk) and at night. I do believe the light gathering is a little better than the Nikons - not a huge amount, but a little better. Keep in mind that I have not been able to do a side by side test, and won't be able to do so until the repaired Nikons are back. One feature I really like is the dual diopter settings. I wear glasses and my wife does not. I generally take my glasses off when using binoculars as I like to put the eye cups right up to my eyes to block out surrounding light. Once I played with them and found my perfect diopter setting, it made it really easy to set and forget. Then, when I pass them to my wife, I just zero them out. When she passes them back, I just turn them exactly to my settings. Nice feature and much easier than refocusing every time we pass them off. Overall, I'm very happy with the purchase. No idea how much better the Commanders would have been, as we ordered on line without trying them. Also, I didn't want to get into the Commander price range. Again, thanks everyone for all the advice and shared experience.
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Old 08-25-2015, 09:58 AM   #42
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Forgot to add, the one down side is that the design of the Steiners is much shorter and wider than the Nikons, so they won't fit in our current teak binocular holder. Not a problem, as that is where the Nikons live, but something to keep in mind. They do make a larger holder for stabilized binoculars that may work with the Steiners.
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Old 08-25-2015, 02:01 PM   #43
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Great follow up report, Nathan! Thanks.
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Old 08-25-2015, 04:20 PM   #44
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Weems & Plath BN20 Explorer binocs. I wasn't a binocular snob before ("these cheap WM brand binocs will work just fine..."), but after using these all summer I just might become one!
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Old 08-25-2015, 04:40 PM   #45
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Weems & Plath BN20 Explorer binocs. I wasn't a binocular snob before ("these cheap WM brand binocs will work just fine..."), but after using these all summer I just might become one!
I wonder who makes their binoculars...my search suggests they are not a manufacturer as many companies where others make their binocs.
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Old 08-25-2015, 06:08 PM   #46
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You can drop the big Fujis all you want; I have personally tested this many times. One's toes and the sole of the boat lose that battle every time. Maybe the difference is having a really really cheap pair as "everyday" and merely a really cheap pair in reserve. I use the binocs intensely when under way. Not just for navigation and safety, but I want to see the world around me as well as I can. One of many many examples: we'd of missed out this turtle porn without them:



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Old 08-25-2015, 07:44 PM   #47
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Due to wave action, my Steiners dropped four feet on the saloon floor of Mahalo Moi, Giggitoni's 42-foot Grand Banks. (Believe it was the trip to China Camp in western San Pablo Bay.) Thankfully, they remained fully functional.
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Old 08-25-2015, 09:30 PM   #48
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Has anyone used the Defender house brand 7X50's ? 80 bucks on sale and far from bad "working glasses". A couple of years back I did a S/F delivery with an owner who had all the toys, he used my defenders all the way to the Georgia line where he dropped them down 2 flights of companion way. I left them for him. Bill
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We've had the Nikons since 2001 and dropped them before. Even flew them to Alaska in our checked luggage for a cruise right after we bought them (so I'm sure they got tossed around). Never had a problem before. I'm guessing they hit at just the right angle. I did seriously consider the Fujis, and have heard great things about them, but I liked the Stiener form factor this time around. I don't think you can go wrong with any of the three brands. So far, Nikon service has been a pleasure to deal with. On the website they say to send in an original copy of the receipt for service, but when we called they said 2001 was too long to be expected to keep the receipt, so just send them with a note.
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Old 08-26-2015, 11:26 AM   #50
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I would image that if Defender puts their name on them, they can't be too bad. Same with West Marine brand. I'm guessing the Defenders may be made by Bushnell given the price point. If I were in your shoes, I'd seriously consider the Nikon OceanPros on sale for $211 or the Steiner Mariners (around $180 if I recall). Bushnell seems to be a decent option for less expensive, as well (based on some of the reviews I read).
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Can't be too sure....check well first.


Some of the worst binocs I have used were West Marine...whether they started that way or were after a years or two of hard use...shouldn't matter.


They may have been the low end...but even the free Binocs from Marlboro cigarettes my former step sons gave me were better....and they weren't 7X50s but the smaller kind.


While money doesn't buy quality all the time...the companies that make the best stand out by reputation no matter what the price is.


Now if WM binocs are made by Fujinon, Nikon, Stiener, etc...they must be the ones with the reject lenses.
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I use a 6x Leopold "Yosemite" made for backpacking. They are small and easy to handle and focus with one hand in rough seas.
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