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09-04-2013, 08:26 AM
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Guru
City: Hailing Port: Charleston, SC
Vessel Name: Moonstruck
Vessel Model: Sabre 42 Hardtop Express
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 8,276
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Moonstruck has AGM batteries, and I like'm.
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09-04-2013, 08:29 PM
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#42
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Member
City: Bowie, Texas
Vessel Name: San Simone
Vessel Model: Barry Farrall 38
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 5
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Siesta Key,
I am using the 12 volt units. Cheap effective, work on more than one battery at a time.
I have never understood why anyone north of 41 40" would use a solar panel in the first place. Electrical consumption for the Powerpulse unit is minimal at best, but it runs day and night, sun or shade, unlike a solar panel. Solar panel users will also drive a Prius, which makes their whole value equation suspect to start with. Maybe they feel better about themselves. British Columbia is part of the True North after all...
If the US Army has decided to put Powerpulse units on every battery they own, then maybe, just maybe, they're on to something. If the Navy did it, then we'd all accept it as Gospel.
San Simone
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09-04-2013, 08:42 PM
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#43
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Member
City: Bowie, Texas
Vessel Name: San Simone
Vessel Model: Barry Farrall 38
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 5
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Fryedaze,
Each of the positive (and negative for that matter) terminals are all normal.
There are few boats more beautiful than a Monk 42... is it wood by any chance?
San Simone
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09-04-2013, 10:18 PM
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#44
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Guru
City: Solomons Island Md
Vessel Name: Fryedaze
Vessel Model: MC 42 (Overseas Co) Monk 42
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 1,720
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bwbarton
Fryedaze,
Each of the positive (and negative for that matter) terminals are all normal.
There are few boats more beautiful than a Monk 42... is it wood by any chance?
San Simone
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No she is a 1989 and glass.
See the error in my new battery connection setup?
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09-04-2013, 11:46 PM
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#45
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TF Site Team/Forum Founder
City: League City, Tx
Vessel Name: Floatsome & Jetsome
Vessel Model: Meridian 411
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 7,332
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Moonstruck
Moonstruck has AGM batteries, and I like'm.
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Well then there you have it!!!!!
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09-05-2013, 12:12 AM
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#46
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Scraping Paint
City: -
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 13,745
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Quote:
OC --Have 2 8Ds in the boat
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Ted-- Sent you a PM suggestion about this.
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09-05-2013, 09:14 AM
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#47
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TF Site Team
City: Paris,TN
Vessel Name: Slo-Poke
Vessel Model: Jorgensen custom 44
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 3,749
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My house bank is needs replaced. It consist of four 6 volt golf carts Exides I think . Would four new Trojan t105 be a decent choice and does 115$ each sound about right?
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09-05-2013, 10:05 AM
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#48
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Guru
City: Solomons Island Md
Vessel Name: Fryedaze
Vessel Model: MC 42 (Overseas Co) Monk 42
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 1,720
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$115 sounds like a good price. I just put in eight Crown 6volt 235 Amp-hr batteries last week. I did some research and found some reviews stating the Crowns were out lasting the Trojans. The Crown CR235 cost me $109.
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09-05-2013, 10:24 AM
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#49
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TF Site Team
City: Saltspring Island
Vessel Name: Retreat
Vessel Model: C&L 44
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 5,656
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bnoft
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Just another reason to stay with the wet cell battery.
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09-05-2013, 10:26 AM
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Senior Member
City: Seattle
Vessel Name: Dear Prudence
Vessel Model: Eagle 40
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 131
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I also look for value in a battery, but I probably define value differently than most.
The Rolls flooded cell batteries we installed in our old boat (after fussing around swapping out the 8D's a few times) were still running strong the day we sold the boat, about 9 years after putting them in. When we replaced the batteries on our new (to us) boat, we stepped right up for two Rolls 8D. The initial price is pretty high. If you figure out that you will likely replace even a decent quality but lesser battery 2-3 times during the life of a Rolls and that as the years go by you will be (assuming your experience is like mine) a bit older, a bit weaker, and a bit less inclined to spend thousands of dollars at the chiropractor's you also save the cost of installation.
I see batteries with warranties as short as 24 months, and even then they are often prorated. If a 24-month prorated battery fails after a year, you only get half your money back when you buy another battery. Rolls are warranted for 10 years, and the first 7 of those years are a full-replacement, non prorated warranty.
Of course, if you tend to trade boats every couple of years it would be hard to recommend the Rolls. You will never get your money's worth out of them unless you keep the boat. I am not sure most buyers would pay more for a Rolls at resale time than for just a Sears Die Hard or K Mart special, as long as the batteries are working.
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09-05-2013, 01:29 PM
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#51
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Guru
City: Cary, NC
Vessel Name: Skinny Dippin'
Vessel Model: Navigator 4200 Classic
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 5,841
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fryedaze
See the error in my new battery connection setup?
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It's on the wall?
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09-05-2013, 02:59 PM
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#52
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Guru
City: Fort Myers, FL... Summers in the Great Lakes
Vessel Name: Slow Hand
Vessel Model: Cherubini Independence 45
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,818
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fryedaze
No she is a 1989 and glass.
See the error in my new battery connection setup?
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It's my understanding that you want the power leads to come off opposite ends of the bank. It's supposed to make a difference, but I wonder how much.
Ted
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09-08-2013, 12:10 AM
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#53
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TF Site Team
City: California Delta
Vessel Name: FlyWright
Vessel Model: 1977 Marshall Californian 34 LRC
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 13,728
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fryedaze
See the error in my new battery connection setup?
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No cutouts in the battery box for leads to pass through?
Tough access to a couple of battery caps?
Nice job on the cables...very tidy and precise.
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09-08-2013, 01:03 AM
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#54
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Moderator Emeritus
City: SEWARD ALASKA
Vessel Name: DOS PECES
Vessel Model: BAYLINER 4788
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 6,263
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuck Gould
I also look for value in a battery, but I probably define value differently than most.
The Rolls flooded cell batteries we installed in our old boat (after fussing around swapping out the 8D's a few times) were still running strong the day we sold the boat, about 9 years after putting them in. When we replaced the batteries on our new (to us) boat, we stepped right up for two Rolls 8D. The initial price is pretty high. If you figure out that you will likely replace even a decent quality but lesser battery 2-3 times during the life of a Rolls and that as the years go by you will be (assuming your experience is like mine) a bit older, a bit weaker, and a bit less inclined to spend thousands of dollars at the chiropractor's you also save the cost of installation.
I see batteries with warranties as short as 24 months, and even then they are often prorated. If a 24-month prorated battery fails after a year, you only get half your money back when you buy another battery. Rolls are warranted for 10 years, and the first 7 of those years are a full-replacement, non prorated warranty.
Of course, if you tend to trade boats every couple of years it would be hard to recommend the Rolls. You will never get your money's worth out of them unless you keep the boat. I am not sure most buyers would pay more for a Rolls at resale time than for just a Sears Die Hard or K Mart special, as long as the batteries are working.
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When my 2 year old house bank is in need of replacing I'm going to look seriously at the rolls battereis.
Much of the time buying someting that lasts longer is cheaper in the long run.
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09-12-2013, 12:18 PM
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#55
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TF Site Team
City: Paris,TN
Vessel Name: Slo-Poke
Vessel Model: Jorgensen custom 44
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 3,749
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My house bank is cooked and needs replaced . It consist of 4 six volt golf cart batteries. What is the main reason some use 6 volt golf carts instead of a couple of 12 volts ?
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09-12-2013, 12:27 PM
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#56
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Guru
City: Solomons Island Md
Vessel Name: Fryedaze
Vessel Model: MC 42 (Overseas Co) Monk 42
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 1,720
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pack Mule
My house bank is cooked and needs replaced . It consist of 4 six volt golf cart batteries. What is the main reason some use 6 volt golf carts instead of a couple of 12 volts ?
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Easier to change out. 65 lbs vs 165 lbs for and 8D.
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09-12-2013, 12:47 PM
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#57
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Guru
City: Cowiche, WA
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 662
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Fryedaze, did you post your error answer for the photo yet?
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1974 Grand Banks 36-427
Vashon Island, WA
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09-12-2013, 12:58 PM
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#58
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Guru
City: Solomons Island Md
Vessel Name: Fryedaze
Vessel Model: MC 42 (Overseas Co) Monk 42
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 1,720
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kolive
Fryedaze, did you post your error answer for the photo yet?
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No
The error was the load side cables are both on the one side of the bank. According to some research I did this arrangement will unevenly load the batteries. The two batterie that the Pos and neg load cables are connected to will see the highest amp draw while the amp draw will get progressively lower as you get farther away.
I will be changing the positive load cable to the opposite end of the bank that the neg is connected to.
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09-12-2013, 01:02 PM
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#59
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Senior Member
City: Seattle
Vessel Name: Dear Prudence
Vessel Model: Eagle 40
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 131
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Batteries designed for golf cart use are also intended for a very large number of deeply discharged cycles. Batteries that can withstand numerous deep discharges and recharges without destroying the internal plates will always be a good choice for a house bank.
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09-12-2013, 01:59 PM
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#60
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Moderator Emeritus
City: Chicago, IL
Vessel Name: Bay Pelican
Vessel Model: Krogen 42
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 2,993
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Golf carts are a major user of deep cycle batteries. Economy of scale allows a somewhat lower price for the 6 volt then the equivalent 12 volt battery in deep cycle.
Also many boaters are no longer as young as they use to be and the lighter weight of the 6 volt batteries allows us to move them when necessary.
Marty
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