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Old 07-27-2013, 04:18 PM   #1
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Anchor Lights and LED Bulbs

Pre trip inspection showed my anchor light not functioning, checked and found bulb is burned.

Running lights I'd probably stop at West Marine, buy standard replacement and be done with it. This being my 360 degree anchor lite makes me ask the question.

Is an LED replacement bulb worth the cost?

http://www.superbrightleds.com/morei...led-tower/526/
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Old 07-27-2013, 05:06 PM   #2
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I don't think the bulb you link to will cut it for a anchor light where you need 2nm visibility. That bulb is the kind for interior lights which you can get for closer to $16 if you google it.

I replaced the bulb in our Aqua Signal anchor light last year with this from WM. It seems like a lot of $ but we anchor out a lot and I want to save the amp hours overnight and not worry about it burning out.

You decide if it's worth it to you.
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Old 07-27-2013, 05:16 PM   #3
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Been looking at the same replacement bulb. My only concern is that my anchor light collects condensation internally from the daily heating and cooling of the sun. I'm worried that the circuitry may not tolerate the condensation.

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Old 07-27-2013, 05:43 PM   #4
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Several years ago I changed to the Davis Mega Masthead Light shown below.



I changed out the original bulb to the $10 Marinebeam LED replacement bulb. At the bottom of their page is a comparison photo done by a friend of mine. I can vouch for the difference. At 0.041A and photocell operated so it turn on at dusk and off at dawn, it was a great improvement. I turn the anchor light on when I leave for the anchorage and turn it off on the way home. It turns itself on and off as needed.
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If you have energy consumption issues, probably so, as every little bit of savings adds up.
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Old 07-27-2013, 06:00 PM   #6
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I changed mine to this, love it. I'm always the brightest in the anchorage (for anchor light anyways). It has a photo sensor so I turn it on when go out and turn it off when I return.

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Old 07-27-2013, 06:42 PM   #7
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I like the lights but the issue would be COLREG compliance. They say that these lights seem to meet the colreg vis compliance, but stop short of saying/proving compliance. When I set up my assistance towing boats in the mid 80's, the coast guard had to inspect them for referral work. The issue of running lights (towing, side, bow and stern) all had to have certification certificates to prove compliance. It was explained to me that the CG had no way to check lumens etc, so the light manufacturer had to test their products and certify themselves. All the popular brands have certificate of colreg compliance enclosed in the packaging. Without these, your Vsl can be deemed "unseaworthy". In these days of nuisance litigation, I would rather not find out the hard way, that my lights don't comply.
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You can buy fixtures (with bulbs) that comply. However, the LED replacement bulbs themselves are not certified (even though they may meet the requirements) and the honest LED websites state this, and go on to basically say use at you own risk. marinebeam.com has good LED info.
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Listen to Capt. Jack (Sailor of Fortune). I buy many bulbs from superbrite. That particular bulb is not certified for 2 mile visibility.

I have an LED anchor bulb from doctorled.com. I is supposedly certified for 2 mile visibility in an AquaSignal series 40 anchor light. Get a certified bulb for your fixture, or change the fixture. Just my HO.

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Old 07-27-2013, 08:38 PM   #10
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Thanks guys.

COLREG's compliance was perhaps how I should have framed my question. Running lights saving draw is obviously a non issue as your under power while they're operating. If I can not find a compliant LED for my anchor light, a compliant one will be picked up at WM on my return trip Wednesday.

I'm not interested in changing fixtures as I wish to maintain the period correct look of the old girl.
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Remember that an incandescent bulb has a single filament that's carefully centered at the focal point of the lens. Replacing it with a similar-sized (or larger) LED with small points of lights arranged around the outside of the "bulb" doesn't result in the same range and characteristics, so it's probably not legal.

Plus, often it's not the bulb that's the problem, but corrosion on the contacts. So even if the bulb doesn't need to be replaced, you may have to access it to clean the contacts. An LED "bulb" doesn't fix that problem.

For an anchor light, I'd say a new LED fixture would be the way to go. Never have to change it, never worry about corrosion, low current draw and it'll be USCG certified legal.

My problem is I haven't found the one I need in LED:


It's got to go on top of the mast, so it has to have the shortest possible height, and work as either an all-around (anchor) light or (forward only) masthead light.
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I have an LED anchor bulb from doctorled.com. I is supposedly certified for 2 mile visibility in an AquaSignal series 40 anchor light. Get a certified bulb for your fixture, or change the fixture. Just my HO.

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Just to clarify Don. The LED sold by this vendor is only "certified compliant" if it is installed in the above specified anchor light fixture?

I ask because the one advertised with the integrated reflector housing looks to be a perfect fit for my housing. I however am not interested if it is not compliant in my stock fixture housing as night time vessel traffic is not something I take cavalierly.
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Just to clarify Don. The LED sold by this vendor is only "certified compliant" if it is installed in the above specified anchor light fixture?

I ask because the one advertised with the integrated reflector housing looks to be a perfect fit for my housing. I however am not interested if it is not compliant in my stock fixture housing as night time vessel traffic is not something I take cavalierly.
Craig, I would download their brochure to see exactly what fixture that have tested compliant. Believe me that lawyers will leave no stone unturned to get out out liability for an accident.
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Here is what I'am using, doesn't have the look of typical marine fixture but will never have to replace anything. Mine is the owl, it's potted so moisture isn't a problem.
http://www.bebi-electronics.com/
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Installed LED bulb in my old Perko anchor light years ago and love it. No worries if I am "detained" onshore for a couple of days. Somewhat distinctive blue/white color helps me find my boat in large anchorages, shockproof, longlived.
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I am using the Owl from Bebi Electronics as well. It is by far the brightest light in any anchorage, so I feel safe. You can hit it with hammer, put it underwater for days, and it will continue to work faithfully. In addition, it has a photocell that turns it on at dusk and off at dawn (in case you forget), so it minimizes the already meager LCD lighting current draw. I highly recommend it.
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I just replaced mine last year. I used the 12" fold down model and the dang thing is crazy bright! Love it.

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I looked at the Bibi web site. It looks like their "Fa'apega" is the combination anchor/steaming light I'd need. I even like the homespun look of a PVC pipe cap with LEDs stuck in it.

Thanks for the tip!
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Craig, I replaced my 25w bulb anchor light with an LED tower 2 years ago. From memory it was a little taller than the one you are considering, is seriously bright, and draws little.
The main chandlery chain here advertises LED nav light/mast head replacement bulbs for $24.90-34.95 as "..not for use on commercial vessels...".
Another is described as "50 Super Bright LED Replacement Bulb" for replacing 25w bulbs and using 3.5w,still with commercial use restriction, cost $59.95 in white.
Of course, the real value of an LED is battery not used, and they should greatly outlast an incandescent.
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I just replaced mine last year. I used the 12" fold down model and the dang thing is crazy bright! Love it.

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Yeah, but... I need the combination fwd masthead and anchor (2 section) light, not just an anchor light.

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Of course, the real value of an LED is battery not used, and they should greatly outlast an incandescent.
True, but another real value is never having to change bulbs, or scrape corrosion off the contacts. Especially at the top of the mast!
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