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Old 12-12-2014, 06:13 PM   #41
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Old 12-13-2014, 12:40 AM   #44
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We hear you. The consensus among mods is emerging, and will probably end up, general info & experiences, feedback, tip exchange, etc. re AC in the 101 thread, and ongoing tuition via the AC website. Watch this space.
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Old 12-13-2014, 04:32 AM   #45
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We hear you. The consensus among mods is emerging, and will probably end up, general info & experiences, feedback, tip exchange, etc. re AC in the 101 thread, and ongoing tuition via the AC website. Watch this space.
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Old 12-13-2014, 08:02 AM   #46
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Last summer we cruised the ICW from Tampa to the Chesapeake and found AC the most valuable planning tool in our tool box.

When I finally figured out AC Companion, about the time we hit northern FL, it became our constant companion on the helm. This is a safety device that anyone cruising in shoal prone waters should have.
Companion is not a chart plotter and I think this has confused a lot of people. It is simply a hazard alerting program. The built in maps are not detailed enough but when run with a mapping program like Plan 2 Nav or many others, it is easy to get detailed mapping info on upcoming hazards. I believe Jeffery has indicate he has plans to infuse more detailed maps within Companion, but at this point I don't see the need.

Jeffery has indicated some chartplotter makers will include AC data on future models. I suspect Garmin may lead the way on this since they were the first (I believe) to incorporate AC data on their nav PC software. I just hope they allow backward compatibility. About a year ago I posted a suggestion on including AC data on Garmin plotters on their forum but never got a reply.

I'm another supporter of a separate AC 101 thread topic. The more people that use it the better the data. I also would like to learn more about e-boat cards something I haven't taken the time to learn.
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Old 12-13-2014, 08:17 AM   #47
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The only thing about Navamatics I don't like is the lack of names .. towns, bodies of water ect.
I think this is a problem with all electronic charts. I've had to pull paper charts out several times to gain situational awareness. I'm not sure there is an answer to this.
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Last summer we cruised the ICW from Tampa to the Chesapeake and found AC the most valuable planning tool in our tool box.

When I finally figured out AC Companion, about the time we hit northern FL, it became our constant companion on the helm. This is a safety device that anyone cruising in shoal prone waters should have.
Companion is not a chart plotter and I think this has confused a lot of people. It is simply a hazard alerting program. The built in maps are not detailed enough but when run with a mapping program like Plan 2 Nav or many others, it is easy to get detailed mapping info on upcoming hazards. I believe Jeffery has indicate he has plans to infuse more detailed maps within Companion, but at this point I don't see the need.

Jeffery has indicated some chartplotter makers will include AC data on future models. I suspect Garmin may lead the way on this since they were the first (I believe) to incorporate AC data on their nav PC software. I just hope they allow backward compatibility. About a year ago I posted a suggestion on including AC data on Garmin plotters on their forum but never got a reply.

I'm another supporter of a separate AC 101 thread topic. The more people that use it the better the data. I also would like to learn more about e-boat cards something I haven't taken the time to learn.
Thanks for your input sounds like you already have a good bit more knowledge then me
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I think sometime the hardest part of learning a new software program is trying to decide if the program has value for your specific need and then how to use it to satisfy that particular need.
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Old 12-13-2014, 11:30 AM   #50
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Thanks for the input on #47 and sounds very objective on #49.
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I think this is a problem with all electronic charts. I've had to pull paper charts out several times to gain situational awareness. I'm not sure there is an answer to this.
I had the same problem ... lack of big picture view. I found having a second device with bigger screen set to smaller scale/zoom and set north up functions as well as paper chart. It provides redundancy and backup device as well. I use iPad with Navionics for this ... in addition to two chartplotters, one integrated with radar, another with sounder.
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I think this is a problem with all electronic charts. I've had to pull paper charts out several times to gain situational awareness. I'm not sure there is an answer to this.
There is, but it requires new coding. And for the app producer, who may have moved on to something else, this may be an unwarranted expense. Plus app producers generally try to keep things backwards-compatible, at least up to a point, because a good chunk of their market is using older devices. So they have to be careful not to change their coding to the point of making the app not work right or at all on older versions of the devices.

The only complaint we have about the Navimatics edition we have is that the names of bodies of water like bays, channels, inlets, etc. do not appear until one is quite zoomed in. And the name is just in one place, so you have to move around on the screen until you find it.

As shown in the photo I posted earlier we place the iPad we're using underway on top of the chartboard to the left of the helm. So the paper chart info is all still right there should we need it.

I believe there is a newer version of Navimatics available now and this problem may have been eliminated. But it's not a free update, it's a whole new edition. Since the names thing is our only complaint about the edition we have now, we've not seen fit to buy it again.
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There is, but it requires new coding. And for the app producer, who may have moved on to something else, this may be an unwarranted expense.
Marin, I was thinking more of chartplotters. But you make a good point.

Richard probably has the best solution, 2 chartplotters which we have. One zoomed to show detail the other zoomed to show situational awareness.
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I think this is a problem with all electronic charts. I've had to pull paper charts out several times to gain situational awareness. I'm not sure there is an answer to this.
Absolutely right - always have paper chart to check against anyway, I say. I bet the crew on board the Volvo 65 which just ran onto a reef in the leg up from Capetown to Abu Dhabi wished they had done that. Apparently did not zoom in enough on their electronic, (read GPS plotter), chart, and did not realise the reef was a reef, but thought it was just an undersea mount, but a closer zoom, or check with a chart, would have shown it was a reef - one that dries out at low tide in fact, and is quite large in area as well. How did that go in 'Pretty Woman'..? "Big mistake…big…huge…"…something like that. Expensive too.
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I've been given permission to go ahead and start an ActiveCaptain 101 thread. It has been set up along with the first step to getting started:
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I've been told that this thread will be closed and the conversation should move to the commercial thread.
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I have to say, without Active Captain my short two day maiden voyage would have been much less enjoyable. I think I encountered around 40 bridges on the trip, but using AC it was so easy to pull up the info beforehand and check to see if I would fit under them or if I needed to call the bridge tender. If i needed an opening all the specific opening info was listed as well as the opening times so I could time the next bridge.

I found myself using AC more than my chart plotter at times because it was so helpful. I ran it on my Ipad through Garmin Blue Charts. Think I spent $29.95 for the Garmin app but it is well worth that IMO.

I also used Active Captain to help me decide on a marina. I stayed at Old Port Cove because of the good reviews on AC, and man was that a nice place! Great service, free bottle of wine at check in, great bar and restaurant, and very clean and updated bathrooms.
Me TOO.

From Nova Scotia to the Bahamas, it was my number one tool, integrated into polar view, it was just what a novice needed.
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OK, this coming summer we are planning about 3000 nm of cruising from say Roche Harbor to Glacier Bay and return. We have charts, Waggoners, Douglas/Hemingway and other guides and information. Chart plotters galore including Navionics on an IPad too. We are not newbies to this area, marinas or anchorages - based upon previous trips to the cruising grounds in question.

Here are 3 questions:

1. What additional information will AC provide that is necessary?
2. Cell phone and Wifi coverage is limited to at most every 3rd day, does this pose an issue?
3. What Microsoft software is compatible, ditto Apple, with AC?

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1. What additional information will AC provide that is necessary?
From the comfort of your armchair, go explore. You'll see.

In general, the data is kept more current because the media is electronic. And instead of an emphasis on some type of expert commentary guiding you, we believe that hundreds of thousands of boaters out there produce better and more appropriate information about a marina or anchorage.

There's a reason that NOAA licenses ActiveCaptain for updating their own charts. That happened after a couple of years of analysis by them.


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2. Cell phone and Wifi coverage is limited to at most every 3rd day, does this pose an issue?
It's completely offline (except for directly getting onto the website which only 20% of users do). When you have internet access, every product will synchronize to the server to update everything that's changed before you head out into the wild again.


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3. What Microsoft software is compatible, ditto Apple, with AC?
There are a bunch:
https://activecaptain.com/navProducts.php

If you have both Mac's and PC/Windows, PolarView will be quite attractive. If you want a really full-featured Windows charting product, Coastal Explorer, Nobeltec, or MaxSea are high-end products. There are others too including my own ActiveCaptain Companion that's free for Windows and Mac OSX (but it isn't a chartplotter).
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So is anyone using this in Southern California or Mexico ? looks like mostly East Coast and abit in the PNW. I like the idea but haven't bought into the tool yet.
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There has been a new thread started in the Commercial Section of Trawler Forum to allow for an open discussion of Active Captain capabilities and techniques. Here's a link to that thread.

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