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Old 09-17-2014, 01:58 AM   #1
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Heading south, where's fuel?

Leaving from Anacortes heading south. Where is the last good harbor to fuel up before heading around the cape and moving South? Is there something in Neah Bay?
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Old 09-17-2014, 07:23 AM   #2
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Maka Marina in Neah Bay.
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Neah Bay is the cheapest place around the PNW because it's owned/operated by the Indians and you don't pay some of the taxes other places have to pay.
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As a general rule, look for fuel docks where commercial boats fill up. They move a lot of fuel so it's cleaner.
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Thanks all. That answers my question. I'll probably be stopping in Neah Bay, Newport, Crescent City and Eureka. Good fuel and guest docks or anchorage in all those places.
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Thanks all. That answers my question. I'll probably be stopping in Neah Bay, Newport, Crescent City and Eureka. Good fuel and guest docks or anchorage in all those places.
That works, and all usually (relatively) easy to get into; Eureka can be tricky in bad weather. I'd still advise calling now and garnering local knowledge from marinas and CG at various states of tide. Bodega Bay is a nice stop, especially if you decide to skip Eureka for some reason and have the range. Noyo (Ft. Bragg) is very doable, but you definitely want local knowledge the first time and good conditions.

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As said above, Makah Marina is a great choice. Don't know your range. The next stops we've used beyond there have been Westport and then Astoria.
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Astoria is about 15 miles or so, 30+ total out of the way for a delivery cruise, but is a fun cruising destination; neat town and a great maritime museum you can spend the better part of the day in. Worth a special trip IMO.
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Astoria is about 15 miles or so, 30+ total out of the way for a delivery cruise, but is a fun cruising destination; neat town and a great maritime museum you can spend the better part of the day in. Worth a special trip IMO.
Depending on the Columbia bar conditions....
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Depending on the Columbia bar conditions....
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That applies to all the inlets. Weather this coming week looks pretty good out there, avoid the ebb if you can and have fun.

http://weather.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/fmtb...qr.cwf.pqr.txt
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What is the vessel's safe range and cruising speed? For many vessels Neah Bay to Bodega Bay, or further, is a nice delivery alternative. That way the bar crossings are negated with the weather windows now the issue.

If you want to sight see the bar crossings and weather windows can take a 4 or 5 day trip and double it, or more.
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What is the vessel's safe range and cruising speed? For many vessels Neah Bay to Bodega Bay, or further, is a nice delivery alternative. That way the bar crossings are negated with the weather windows now the issue.

If you want to sight see the bar crossings and weather windows can take a 4 or 5 day trip and double it, or more.
Adding to his questions, is this to be just a delivery trip or a pleasure trip? What crew? I know it sounds a bit off from your fuel question but it's really relevant to potential fuel stops.
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It's mostly a delivery trip. Not sure about fuel and range as we havent actually measured it, but we have a week or so to figure that out. With 250 gallons at 5 per hour, makes 50 hours at 7 knots or 350 mile range. That's what I'm using g for plan I. Purposes at this point. We are planning to leave Olympia on the 14th of October and spend a few days in Anacortes and the San Juans. Leaving from there on the 20th-21st and heading south at Delivery pace with me (professional sailboat captain) one hired crew with thousands of ocean miles on Power and sailboats, and my girlfriend who gets seasick, but is incredibly willing to try hard under bad conditions.
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Your calculation should include at least 20% reserve off fuel capacity for that trip. There's nowhere to hide for a lot of the way if you guess wrong, have to run harder, or a bar is impassable. Try to get a very accurate consumption benchmark as you head up and out Puget Sound, run different speeds and fill up every chance you get. Always better to know than assume, if nothing else you get a good night's sleep.
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Your calculation should include at least 20% reserve off fuel capacity for that trip. There's nowhere to hide for a lot of the way if you guess wrong, have to run harder, or a bar is impassable. Try to get a very accurate consumption benchmark as you head up and out Puget Sound, run different speeds and fill up every chance you get. Always better to know than assume, if nothing else you get a good night's sleep.
And keep in mind that you don't precisely how much fuel it holds. And may not know what is in the bottom of the tank.

If I didn't fuel daily, I would at least every other day, which would mean every 160-180 nm or so. There's just always that possibility you'll need to choose to pass the next planned stop by. But if I was stopping nightly at marinas as I understand your plans, then I'd fill it more frequently than normal since you're still learning it.
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It's mostly a delivery trip. Not sure about fuel and range as we havent actually measured it, but we have a week or so to figure that out. With 250 gallons at 5 per hour, makes 50 hours at 7 knots or 350 mile range. That's what I'm using g for plan I. Purposes at this point. We are planning to leave Olympia on the 14th of October and spend a few days in Anacortes and the San Juans. Leaving from there on the 20th-21st and heading south at Delivery pace with me (professional sailboat captain) one hired crew with thousands of ocean miles on Power and sailboats, and my girlfriend who gets seasick, but is incredibly willing to try hard under bad conditions.
Numbers seem funny. A boat big enough to burn 5gph at 7kts usually carries way more than 250gal.

What kind of boat and engine is it?

My 38 carries 300gal and burns 1.9gph at 7.5kts.
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It's a Nova Heritage 44 foot Sundeck with twin Volvo TAMD 40 B motors. I will top off the fuel before I leave Olympia. And carefully monitor use for the next couple of days as we cruise the San Juans.
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Burn rate probably a good bit lower than 5gph at 7.5kts. Probably more like 3gph, but guessing.
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