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Old 07-02-2012, 11:45 PM   #1
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July 2, 2012:

Vallejo: $3.899
Pittsburg: $3.799
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I fueled at Vallejo where I keep Mahalo Moi. Tenants receive a 5% discount. I paid $3.509 per gallon. Red dyed, off-road diesel (no California tax). As I write this, I realize that the attendant gave us a 10% discount... Oops! I'll fix that this Friday!
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Old 07-30-2012, 06:05 PM   #2
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no california taxes? how is that?
i bought diesel at Jankovich @ LA/San Pedro ports for $3.40 per gallon on july 21, 2012 but they charged 8.75% tax.
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Old 07-30-2012, 08:06 PM   #3
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By law it is illegal to charge the road tax on red dye diesel where red dye is manufactured only for off road vehicles such as tractors, boats, graders, dozers etc.

In my Colorado Sheriff days the fine for using red dye in cars and trucks was $10,000 per occurence. The only time that it was evident was generally during vehicle accidents when fuel was spilled and then it was easy to see that someone was filling from the cheaper farm tank.

Although I knew a deputy who used to go to the weekly stock sales sneaking around and putting a wooden dowell into fuel tank via the cap to see if the farmers were using red dye diesel in their pick-ups. Luckily that deputy didnt last long especially in a rural community.

More the concern right now is the knuckleheads in Sacramento California looking at charging an additional $2.22 for diesel by year 2020 under the California Only Diesel Program. I am not sure if it will spread to red dye or not but stay up to date on that issue.

Here is a link to one of the stories:
California trucking group slams CARB fuel policies | eTrucker: Trucking News, Truck Driver Jobs, Diesel Fuel Prices, Loads, Routing,& More!
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no california taxes? how is that?
i bought diesel at Jankovich @ LA/San Pedro ports for $3.40 per gallon on july 21, 2012 but they charged 8.75% tax.
Posted fuel prices in California normally include all taxes, including sales tax. If someone is adding sales tax beyond the posted price, they're just using a marketing ploy.
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Old 08-03-2012, 05:54 PM   #5
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Village West in Stockton is $3.29.
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Old 01-14-2013, 01:00 AM   #6
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$3.99 a gallon at Pittsburg, CA. Fortunately, I loaded $600 of fuel before the marina realized their credit-charge network had broken down. Subsequent potential fuel-purchasers were turned away.

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Old 01-14-2013, 01:21 AM   #7
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Ray and I topped off in Pittsburg today before leaving town. The CC phone line was still down and we only had one check between the two of us, so I wrote the check after we both fueled up.

But that's OK, because Ray bought the breakfast!!

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Thanks guys,

My mind was too cold to remember to check the fuel price as I had planned.
Long overdue to add some fresh diesel. Will check next weekend if Larry's price has dropped yet, he has been at $4.25 for months now - just cannot bring myself to pay that much.
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Old 01-14-2013, 01:47 AM   #9
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Ray and I topped off in Pittsburg today before leaving town. The CC phone line was still down and we only had one check between the two of us, so I wrote the check after we both fueled up.

But that's OK, because Ray bought the breakfast!!

Gotta love Trawler Forum friends!!
Thanks, Al. You're my very best friend ever! Imagine, $907 scrambled eggs
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My mind was too cold to remember to check the fuel price as I had planned.
Long overdue to add some fresh diesel. Will check next weekend if Larry's price has dropped yet, he has been at $4.25 for months now - just cannot bring myself to pay that much.
Jim, may I suggest you exercise your engines as well as get to Pittsburg for a load of fuel (bring a blank check or a few $100 bills).
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Math was never my forte. It was a really great breakfast, though!!! Thanks for buying!

Thank goodness you tanks weren't any bigger! Enjoy the fuel.
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Old 01-14-2013, 01:56 AM   #12
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Thanks, Al. You're my very best friend ever! Imagine, $907 scrambled eggs
That's quite a load. No wonder the slower but already fuel-loaded Coot beat you home.
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Village West is 3.76. We're going to have to make the trip someplace fairly soon to "fill up.". We bought some in oyster point to get us back to the delta but it was $5 so we didn't get much!
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Does the Village West fuel have the valve-tech additives in it ? At the Pittsburg marina they are included in the fuel price. Fun seeing and meeting everyone this past weekend, Next time, Ray remebers his steps, Mark brings his summer coat, and Al, well Al gets a bigger paddle so he can get here on time.

Mark, thanks for the Coot Hats, now I just need to find something close to that color to wear it with..
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Either that or I need to learn to leave earlier. I might be the last one to the party, but that gives me the biggest dock crew!! Thanks all for the great welcoming party!

My experiment with power settings is now complete. As I mentioned to Ray, "She's old and slow, but she sure is cheap!!"

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Al,

No excuses. It's OK, you are retired, remember....

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Does the Village West fuel have the valve-tech additives in it ? At the Pittsburg marina they are included in the fuel price.
No clue... does this mean that if I buy fuel in Pittsburgh, I don't need to add any other additives? I really don't know what the stuff is that we add, just that our mechanic friend told us to do it...
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Yes. The Pittsburg fuel has ValvTect which includes a biocide. When I buy fuel elsewhere, I add my own Biobor JF.

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Old 01-14-2013, 08:37 PM   #19
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Does the Village West fuel have the valve-tech additives in it ? At the Pittsburg marina they are included in the fuel price. Fun seeing and meeting everyone this past weekend, Next time, Ray remebers his steps, Mark brings his summer coat, and Al, well Al gets a bigger paddle so he can get here on time.

Mark, thanks for the Coot Hats, now I just need to find something close to that color to wear it with..
Thanks for your hospitality, Mark. Enjoyed the tour of your Vantare also. See you soon.
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While both Marks seem to be interested in what Al was saying, his wife Meg doesn't.

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