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Old 05-18-2013, 08:58 PM   #41
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Well, it is! Our sea level in the Western Pacific is higher than the Atlantic, too!
Oh yeah, well I've seen it with my own 20/20s, and it looks no bigger than the Atlantic. You just can't beat a real eye witness that has seen them both. I'll stand on that!
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Old 05-18-2013, 09:04 PM   #42
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I had a senior member tell me that he slept 20 minutes at a time. If you wake up and can't see anything you have 20 minutes before you could hit anything.
That's also my rule. I try to sleep during day light, then i am more vissible for others. But every single handler lies if he say he never sleep for a few hours, even the "great" guys from this year Vendee Globe Race told that now and then they sleep for more hours at ones. You can't ignore your body.

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Old 05-18-2013, 09:47 PM   #43
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... The euphoria you experience when coming back into SF Bay is beyond description.
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Old 05-18-2013, 10:43 PM   #45
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You just can't beat a real eye witness that has seen them both. I'll stand on that!
Oh! You are the only one who has sailed both the Atlantic and the pacific? Well let me fill you in on something, Buster! I, too, have sailed the Atlantic (Enterprise) and the Pacific (My own boat) Throw in the Caribbean, the Gulf of California, Alaska etc. and all before I was 50!
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Old 05-18-2013, 10:59 PM   #46
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Moonstruck, I hope you're not going to take that sitting down.



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Old 05-19-2013, 03:30 AM   #47
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We need to spend more time in the SF Bay! San Pablo Bay doesn't count (anymore).

SF Bay, looking southwestward, toward past the Gate:



SP Bay looking south-westward, betwixt the refineries:

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Old 05-19-2013, 09:28 AM   #48
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KJ, I have to tell you, once again you outdid yourself. And I can only hope we get calm seas like in your pictures, at least some of the time.

We fortunately do have a three man crew so we can break up the watches at night into smaller segments. Another thing working in our favor is the radar. Most of my boats have had dome style 18 - 24 mile radars, but I also had a 3988 Bayliner with the same 48 mile open array radar as this 57. The difference clarity and target definition with open array is amazing. I remember picking up a seagull sitting on a log at 1/8 mile one time. Just sitting here in the marina I can track small boats on Lake Union. Once the AIS is installed, the MARPA feature will probably be relegated to non-AIS equipped fishing and pleasure boats.

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[QUOTE=markpierce;157406]We need to spend more time in the SF Bay!

Al, Mark, Ray, Craig, PG and others:

To even consider spending more time in SF Bay, without having to do a long cruise, speaks to the great cruising ground you guys have up there. To cruise salt water in surroundings such as SF Bay and then rinse the cooling system with fresh water ((Without pulling the boat out or going through a lock) is pretty damn neat! Not to mention covered slips and rates that are ridiculous when compared to San Diego. I'm envious! ( But not enough to leave S.D.)

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Old 05-19-2013, 11:10 AM   #50
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Haven't read much of this thread but I have a comment.

The seas are too rough when you can't see them any more due to wind blown flying spray.

The worst sea conditions I've ever seen were in Dixon Entrance w wind driven breaking seas about 2 story house size AND ....

Up Lynn Canal. In the winter the "Big Lynn" is hit by awful northerlies that make incredible "sea smoke". Can't even see the water for all the white spray as not seen from the ferry deck. The first time I saw that it was an OMG moment.

But re the thread from my experience the seas are too rough when ther'e too rough. By that I mean that there seems to be a well defined point where there is no doubt about it ..... I'm gett'in ou'ta here! All the "let's see how it goes" thoughts are gone when you reach that point.
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Old 05-19-2013, 12:53 PM   #51
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As one of the crew on Following Seas when we take this journey I appreciate all the input and insight you have shared. This will be my first trip onto the Pacific and, while it will be a learning experience for me, I'm a bit apprehensive as well as eager to be out there.

As the "keeper of the blog" for this little boat trip I'm going to be posting lots of notes and photos of our journey.

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GFC I look forward to following your adventure on the blog.
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Old 05-19-2013, 02:07 PM   #53
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GFC and StuartT, did you guys know each other before TF or did you meet here?

Sounds like a great trip. I'll follow the your Following Seas Journey bLog.
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Old 05-19-2013, 02:25 PM   #54
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We actually 'met' on IBoatNW. Stuart put up a thread there and BOC asking for info for a captain he could hire to make the trip with him. Someone suggested he find a couple of regular guys with a fair amount of boating experience to make the trip with him, and he decided to do that. So that's how he and I got together.

By way of a confession my 'blog' won't be a traditional blog as most of you are familiar with. I don't know how to set one of those up so I'm just going to be making my notes in MS Word and pasting them into a thread on here and a couple of other boating sites I frequent. I'll probably start those threads just before we take off on the trip. I've done that in the past and, based on the comments from others on those threads, I've have had a pretty good following.

Stuart is going to have an AIS on board so people following our trip can track our progress. Between the AIS tracking and the stories and photos I suspect we'll have quite a large 'crew' on board. The more the merrier.
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You won't be able to follow them all the way with marinetraffic.com. They will probably disappear around Cape Flattery and show up again just south of Fort Bragg. If they pull into Newport, it will work for a while, but even Eureka wiil probably not pick them up.

Also, try vesselfinder.com. It works better than marinetraffic.com much of the time, but not always.
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Oh! You are the only one who has sailed both the Atlantic and the pacific? Well let me fill you in on something, Buster! I, too, have sailed the Atlantic (Enterprise) and the Pacific (My own boat) Throw in the Caribbean, the Gulf of California, Alaska etc. and all before I was 50!
OK there buddy, if the Pacific is bigger, explain to me why you can't see any farther on the Pacific than you can on the Atlantic. It's just all west coast hype.
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OK there buddy, if the Pacific is bigger, explain to me why you can't see any farther on the Pacific than you can on the Atlantic.
Oh, but you can see farther on the Pacific than you can on the Atlantic! I pulled this from a NASA paper on this very subject and here is what they concluded:

Obviously, the sun does not set in the east (Atlantic) so it is not possible to see as far.
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Oh, but you can

Obviously, the sun does not set in the east (Atlantic) so it is not possible to see as far.
OK you're right, but we get the sun when it's fresh and new for the day. By the time it gets to the west coast it is spent, and needs recharging.
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Who says the sun doesn't set over the Atlantic? Certainly not the Portugese or, dare I say, even the French!
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Who says the sun doesn't set over the Atlantic? Certainly not the Portugese or, dare I say, even the French!
You stay out of this, Flywright. I've got enough to deal with here without another screwed up thinking left coaster entering into it. Portugal and
France don't even fit in the discussion. I don't think there is a question to match Seahorse II's answer. You guys just won't listen to sound reasoning.
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