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Old 08-02-2015, 03:04 PM   #1
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I snagged a few crappy pics of this fine vessel through the binoculars just now. She's called First Snow. She was off Stoneport, Michigan, headed north on a gloomy, squally day.

Is that a Selene?
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Old 08-02-2015, 03:26 PM   #2
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Is that a Selene?

Yes I believe so. Judging by the saloon windows she should be in the 60'ish foot range.
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Old 08-02-2015, 03:40 PM   #3
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Yes I believe so. Judging by the saloon windows she should be in the 60'ish foot range.

Yeah, I was thinking upper 50s. Lovely boat.
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Old 08-02-2015, 03:53 PM   #4
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At least a 53', Yes, it is Selene. Hard to mistake the "wannabe" windows in the pilot house.
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Old 08-02-2015, 03:55 PM   #5
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I think it's a 2006 57 Selene

Enter "First Snow" here

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Looks alot like this one.

http://www.yachtworld.com/privatelab...g_id=1820&url=

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Old 08-02-2015, 04:54 PM   #6
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At least a 53', Yes, it is Selene. Hard to mistake the "wannabe" windows in the pilot house.

I might be the only one here but I think the term "wannabe" windows is a touch harsh or even crass. I personally woundn't think of having a bluewater boat with any other type of windows. The benefits totally outweigh any negative look in the design. On a boat like Moonstruck they would look just plain stupid.. but at sea, at night, in the rain or in the right harsh light they are the best.

Selene probably used them for the look.

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Old 08-02-2015, 06:48 PM   #7
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I might be the only one here but I think the term "wannabe" windows is a touch harsh or even crass. I personally woundn't think of having a bluewater boat with any other type of windows. The benefits totally outweigh any negative look in the design. On a boat like Moonstruck they would look just plain stupid.. but at sea, at night, in the rain or in the right harsh light they are the best.

Selene probably used them for the look.

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Not my term. Notice it is in quotation marks. That term can be attributed to one of our esteemed forum members. In fact a member with a very high message count. . . . ., snd that's all I've got to say about that.
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Old 08-02-2015, 07:00 PM   #8
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Not my term. Notice it is in quotation marks. That term can be attributed to one of our esteemed forum members. In fact a member with a very high message count. . . . ., snd that's all I've got to say about that.
Would that be the one who would tell you it wasn't a trawler also.

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Would that be the one who would tell you it wasn't a trawler also.

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I think you are on to something, Ted.
the same one who thinks grand banks are ugly?

OC, you are one of the lucky ones that KNOW the attributes of forward sloped pilot house windows. Great boat by the way!



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Old 08-02-2015, 10:29 PM   #11
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Thought I was the first one criticized for wannabe pilothouse windows (love 'em)!


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Old 08-02-2015, 11:41 PM   #12
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Don't get the wrong idea, guys. We love all boats! But I hear it's bad luck to post pics of your boat with its old name. Hope that's not true, Richard.

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Don't get the wrong idea, guys. We love all boats! But I hear it's bad luck to post pics of your boat with its old name. Hope that's not true, Richard.

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Old 08-03-2015, 01:32 AM   #16
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I really like the 'wannabe' winders. I've seen that phrase thrown around here and was wondering where it stemmed from...
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Old 08-03-2015, 01:46 AM   #17
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When I built my previous boat, a / foot troller, I put foreward sloping windows in the wheel house. Several advantages.

Present boat doesn't have them.
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Old 08-03-2015, 02:15 AM   #18
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I'm always happy to see Oki. Such a great boat! She'd look odd with forward sloped windows. The vertical ones you have are a perfect fit.
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I fully understand the attributes and advantages of reverse raked windshields on vessels that will benefit from them On most toy recreational boats they are simpky butt ugly in my opinion, serve no purpose other than trying to look "seaworthy," and basically ruin the aesthetics of every boat that has them, again in my opinion. Hence my term "wannabe windows". Not much differnt than "wannabe trawlers" i guess.

Whether or not a person chooses to use this term thenselves is not my concern. It's what i call them, same as "cabin cruiser" or "diesel cabin cruiser" is how i refer to our boat since that's what it actually is. It is no more a "trawler" than my Ford pickup is a Formula One car.

And yes, I don't find Grand Banks boats all that good looking despite having one.
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Old 08-03-2015, 02:27 AM   #20
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I fully understand the attributes and advantages of reverse raked windshields on vessels that will benefit from them. On most toy recreational boats they are simply butt ugly in my opinion, serve no purpose other than trying to look "seaworthy," and basically ruin the aesthetics of every boat that has them, again in my opinion. Hence my term "wannabe windows". Not much different than "wannabe trawlers" I guess.
I suppose you could say the same sort of things about the shutters on my house. A working shutter serves a purpose, but mine are just dummies. I like the way they look, though. I also have a wannabe rear diffuser on my car.

Actually, I think the windows on that Selene are my favorite part of the whole design. The way the angle plays off the Portuguese bridge, and how it all ties into the sheer and rake of the bow really does it for me. I've always admired that part of the Nordhavn 46 as well.
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