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Old 09-18-2012, 01:07 AM   #141
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Thanks Marin, actually the name Portuguese came to me as I hit the post button, but I was not absolutely sure, so I left it, knowing someone else would know it.
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Old 09-18-2012, 01:12 AM   #142
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Portugese bridge. I have no idea why it's called that but it can be a nice feature according to the people I've talked to who have boats with them.
Yes Marin, but not practical for boats as small as yours and mine.

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Old 09-18-2012, 07:14 AM   #143
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Hold up there guys,
I thought I made it clear that my criticism of tall boats and FBs is pure personal opinion. I even think a Krogen is too high up in the air but it's just personal opinion .. nothing more. I've never been on a tall tented sundeck like Mike the broker's and actually I've never in my life been on a FB while underway either. I'm look'in at it a bit like a farmer from Nebraska standing by the government locks in Seattle look'in at a tall trawler and think'in "man that's way up there Thelma". And being high in a wheelhouse or FB is judged by myself only as a perception of what it would be like. But I know what windage can do to Willy and she draws 3 1/2' and next to most other trawlers she has almost no windage at all. And the helmsman on Willy is quite low and I've had to hang on so many times I can't count so I'm think'in "wow what must it be like way up there" but I've never been there done that. But I wouldn't buy a tall boat w/o lots of experience being high up. Never heard of anyone falling out/off a FB or getting hurt flailing around up there nor have I seen a tall boat get caught by the wind, slammed into something and get damaged. But I don't speak out of a total vacuum either. I driven tall semi-trucks a lot and been up on many roofs but there must not be as much to my perception of tall boats as I do perceive. But I usually criticize things .. not people.

Mark how do you see where your'e going w all that stuff in your face. Perhaps you should put a wheelhouse ........ Was I actually going to say that.
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Old 09-18-2012, 12:54 PM   #144
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Youz guys up there in the PNW don't know how lucky you are when it comes to beautiful design in boats. Down here in the Miami swamp, most of our marinas are filled with late model, streamlined white bars of soap with no souls. One of the trend setting evolutions that have come along is the competitive grey (ILO white) bar of soap. They have hot tubs and plush interiors but telling one brand from another doesn't even seem important anymore. The occasional Taiwan trawler is a pleasant change of stale air, and thankfully, the area still has its fan support of Hatteras boats, although mostly made up of the 45 ft. plus sport-fisher wake-master group. The ICW and off-shore islands cruising crowd adds seasonal color to our boat viewing, but I don't remember the last time I passed something with a nice round stern.
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Old 09-18-2012, 12:56 PM   #145
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On the floats at Port Browning. No ExtraTuff boots here .. must not be in Alaska anymore. There's something else about these youths that says the same thing. Perhaps that they are hang'in around yachts instead of fish boats and the glow of the yachts changes their image in some way. Friendly enough.
Speaking of top hamper and windage New Rosa has more than some but I'll bet her bottom descends 4' or more and that gives her license in my book. Rosa seems exceptionally narrow though.

2 Part of the resort at Port Browning. Made us feel like we were half way to Las Vegas .. Hmmmmmmm

3 The wind out of the esat at Port Browning. This could be a good destination for many NW guys here.

4 Chris on the beach. The gentle softness of the beach in southern PNW is rather warm and fuzzy after 7 years where literally 98% of beaches are just rock. The locals even called Prince of Wales Is "the rock".
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Eric, New Rosa looks like she would be a little tender. She also looks like a slicer that would cut the water cleanly.
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Old 09-18-2012, 02:08 PM   #147
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....I've had to hang on so many times I can't count so I'm think'in "wow what must it be like way up there" but I've never been there done that.
We've driven from our flying bridge in four-foot waves and it's not too bad. Yes, it moves around a lot up there but you're sitting down and the movement is not all that uncomfortable. We don't drive from up there anymore not because the motion bothers us but because we don't like the sight picture from up there. In close-in maneuvering and docking we find it much easier to judge the boat's exact position relative to the dock and other boats from the lower helm. Plus with two of us if the person at the helm needs to get on deck to help out it's just a matter of stepping out the door. And as I've said before, we can't hear, feel, and smell what's going on in the engine room from up above.
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Old 09-18-2012, 02:17 PM   #148
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Eric--- Here is a shot of the boarding ladder that is used on that little gray fishboat conversion we saw in Silva Bay. Seems a pretty substantial device to me. I have no idea where they store it once they're aboard. Perhaps it comes apart and stows flat somewhere.
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Old 09-18-2012, 02:56 PM   #149
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Oh yes I see it Marin. Thanks. Ours is plastic and aluminum tube.

I like the stern on that boat but it would benefit visually from being a bit curved. If I was designing that boat I'd lower the transom and thereby lengthen the WLL. The designer I suspect designed the boat to be most efficient w a heavy load and the WL up considerably. The rest of the hull looks very much like it was designed for heavy loads. That's a somewhat decent example of why some commercial boats don't convert perfectly to pleasure boats. But so few FD pleasure boats exist that a pleasure boater looking for or needing a FD hull often buys a fishboat and converts.

Well guys I'm pack'in up this computer and put'in it in a box. See you on the i-pad at times. Have a nice fall everyone.

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It just occurred to me they might simply stow the boarding ladder in the dinghy once it was up in its davits.
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Old 09-18-2012, 04:47 PM   #151
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Never heard of anyone falling out/off a FB or getting hurt flailing around up there
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Old 09-18-2012, 07:41 PM   #152
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Boat porn

Always enjoy looking at all these nice boats. So what ya think of this woodie seen at Skagway last year. Owner told me she was some kind of Canadian government boat in her earlier life.
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Old 09-18-2012, 09:39 PM   #153
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Always enjoy looking at all these nice boats. So what ya think of this woodie seen at Skagway last year. Owner told me she was some kind of Canadian government boat in her earlier life.
Both the US and Canadian fisheries and forestry departments had a wide variety of mostly really nice wood cruiser/utility boats that were used to patrol the huge area of inland waters, conduct research projects, and so forth. They did not seem to be built to any particular common design but they all had a similar "look." A fair number of them still exist, some kept in beautiful condition by their owners. The boat in your photo is typical of these fisheries/forestry boats from both sides of the border. Here are a couple more I snagged off the web. As I say, all the ones I have seen over the years have been very good-looking boats. I don't know anything about their power or upkeep requirements. I suspect many of them have been repowered. But they are not all that big so the maintenance is probably within reach of someone who has the willingness and wherewithal to do it.

Note the "tree" boat names in all three cases. The ex-fisheries and forestry boats I've seen all retained their original names. So I suspect that all three of the boats we've illustrated are ex-forestry boats.

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Old 09-18-2012, 11:48 PM   #154
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that fellow hat fell of the flight bridge hit his head and died, it happened here in jupiter where i live, was a charter capt with 40 yrs exp. but stuff happens?
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River bars at oceans' edge are often treacherous: common between San Francisco CA to Cape Flattery WA, so I'm told.
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Old 09-19-2012, 02:31 AM   #156
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River bars at oceans' edge are often treacherous: common between San Francisco CA to Cape Flattery WA, so I'm told.
When the Columbia River meets the incoming swells of the Pacific with a stong west wind behind them you don't want to be on the bridge of a container ship let alone in a little toy boat like the ones we have. It's why the Coast Guard has rollover boats.

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that fellow hat fell of the flight bridge hit his head and died, it happened here in jupiter where i live, was a charter capt with 40 yrs exp. but stuff happens?

So what happened to cause the boat to roll like that?I'm surprised it popped back up that fast.
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he got caught in a roller a little bit sideways and the chine dug in, the mate went up and got control of the boat,there was no railing on the bridge and it just threw him over,but his head hit the deck on the way down and over he went.i think it broke his neck.
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he got caught in a roller a little bit sideways and the chine dug in, the mate went up and got control of the boat,there was no railing on the bridge and it just threw him over,but his head hit the deck on the way down and over he went.i think it broke his neck.

That is just awful.My condolences to the family and friends.
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I arrived in Concrete WA last night after packing up the house and loading the 40' container. Took the little Toyota, went to Rupert on two ferries and drove 1000 miles down (south) to WA. Many many big Canadian PU trucks going very fast. Good thing I like to drive or I'd have to label it a bad experience. Getting old is so weird. Went to pay for a meal in Quesnel at a Denny's (I usually avoid Denny's) and the cashier said w a bit of surprise in her voice " you want to pay w cash?". I said "of course" but in an moment it was clear to me that was very unusual as the cashier went to get the mgr to unlock the cash drawer. Sometimes I wish things wouldn't change so FAST! Happened in other places too in different ways. A cashier (after I gave him $50 cash to turn on the gas pump so I could fill up kept asking me for my card. Over and over he wouldn't take the real money (maybe he didn't know what it was!) but insisted on " a card". Oh well the trip was at least some fun and a bit cheaper than the ferry. And I'm home in Concrete.
Not very eager for the container to get here as the WORK will start up again.Then what to do w 12 to 16 thousand pounds of "household goods"?
Anyway ther'e isn't many pics left on the boat trip event to share and the rest don't compare to Kynoch Inlet ect. I'll finish this up some time later. The computers are in the container but have little idea how I'm going to " get on-line".
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