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Old 09-17-2012, 12:40 AM   #121
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First 3 pictures are of the trawler Summer but last is of Seabeam.
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Old 09-17-2012, 02:11 AM   #122
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Summer looks like an American Marine Alaskan to me. DeFever design built in wood in AM's Kowloon Yard.
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Old 09-17-2012, 10:59 AM   #123
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Marin I'd guess the Seabeam came before that. Could be a Vic Frank boat too.
But probably Canadian built.

This park in Comox made us smile. Complete w grazing deer, sculpture and a tea house. See Chris in the tea house.
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Old 09-17-2012, 11:16 AM   #124
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So why not take the compouter with you, we always take the computer to watch moves/play games/read books to pass the time. We have driven to/from Prince Rupert many times taking my dad to visit sister and bother. Nice senery but boring after a while.

So where in Washington are you going to end up! The winter will probalbe feel like summer to you, unless you go east of the mountains.
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Old 09-17-2012, 11:53 AM   #125
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Kids with animals in the park.

Charming Comox.

Here it looks like Willy ran into the side of a bldg instead of a whale.
Remarkable resemblance.
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Old 09-17-2012, 01:04 PM   #126
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Marin I'd guess the Seabeam came before that. Could be a Vic Frank boat too.
But probably Canadian built.
I don't know what Seabeam is. But Summer is most certainly an American Marine Alaskan built in the late 60s or early 70s. Here are a couple of shots of a 1975 49' Alaskan I took the other week in Ganges. Other than the larger hull ports it is almost identical to Summer. All Alaskans are wood.

This is my favorite production recreational boat design (it's deFever's).
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Old 09-17-2012, 01:53 PM   #127
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Sorry .. I got the wrong name in the wrong place on my post. I agree on the Summer/Alaskan. That's it to be sure. I personally think it looks top heavy. DeFever does too but Jeff (Artic Traveler) says they are not. Of course he has one but I believe him. I don't care for the big top heavy looking boats like sundecks and such. If one is to be extreme I'd rather be extreme as in long, low and narrow. Obviously most feel otherwise. I'd prefer the Seabeam refit as a pleasure boat. It's a double ender too. Seabeam isn't a narrow boat though. I think trawlers tend to be fat. I posted the pic for the guys (you included).

So is your favorite the Alaskan or the DeFever? Other than appearance is there any relationship between the two boats?
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Old 09-17-2012, 02:22 PM   #128
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Eric-- The American Marine Alaskan is a deFever design. That's why most Alaskans and boats like the deFever 46 look almost exactly alike. It's also why a Fleming looks the way it does. Tony Fleming managed the American Marine yard for several years and when he left to start his own company he took the deFever/Alaskan design with him and modified it to suit his taste.

One of the big mistakes many of us GBers feel American Marine made was not transitioning the Alaskan line from wood to fiberglass as they did their Grand Banks line. The Alaskan line was discontinued when AM closed their Kowloon Yard in the mid-1970s or thereabouts.
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Old 09-17-2012, 09:20 PM   #129
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Here's a boat that looks very good to me. I especially like the FB. Looks like the designer intended to limit the people on the FB to a reasonable number. No doubt windage was taken down a peg too. Probably a puncher, a bit fat and heavy but probably very capable and well balanced vessel. I like it.


Hobo is in quite a number of ways like Willy. A bit smaller and of course wood. I'd like to see her out of the water. In the water she's definitely good to look at.

It was often breezy and frequently we had company.

Our local mechanic Hyden. Being so slender he could wrap himself around our small engine like a cat. He sure stuck to the job.
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Hobo is mighty easy on the eyes. Great looking little woodie.
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Old 09-17-2012, 10:22 PM   #131
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Craig,
Easy call for both of us eh?. But I like the boat above it too. Don't like Hobo's anchor stick'in way out there though. Marin's favorite too. I like Seabeam best though. I wanted to go over and take up all the fenders on her for a better pic. Wife put a leash on me.
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I saw a Vashon recently that turned my eye too. Nice double end design small boat.

Gotta love that old troller look though as that pointy stern sure limits your stern platform options. Haven't seen a good looking swim platform on one yet. Removable teak or mahogany ladder would work well though.
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Old 09-17-2012, 10:42 PM   #133
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Don't like Hobo's anchor stick'in way out there though. Marin's favorite too.
He's probably got it stuck out there in the hopes that it snags a tree on the shoreline as he drifts by since he obviously knows it won't hold onto the bottom.

For a slightly larger cousin of Hobo's, Eric, take a look at the gray fishboat conversion in my Gulf Islands 2012 photos. I really like the design of that that one even though it's not a true double-ender.

With regards to the swimstep challenge on a double ended boat, the gray trawler has a really nice, stable teak (or some such wood) boarding ladder that clamps over the starboard gunwale between the pilothouse and the little stern cabin. I'll put up a shot of that side of the boat later. It's a good solution.
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Old 09-17-2012, 11:26 PM   #134
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I thought of that Marin. We use a hook ladder to board the dinghy. With two one could perhaps attach a folding platform much like a swimstep. I'll be look'in for the pic.

1st pic is en-route to Ladysmith.

2nd pic = long low and narrow .. and fast.

3rd Pic The north end of Saltspring Island.
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Eric--- What did you think of Ladysmith? We've not been there although we understand they have significantly upgraded their marina facilities over the last few years. But we're thinking there's nothing all that interesting there. What's your opinion?
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Old 09-17-2012, 11:37 PM   #136
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!. I believe this to be an old Mathews.

2. I believe this to be a Fuillard.

5. I believe it's getting late.

This is at Port Browning .. I believe.
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Old 09-17-2012, 11:54 PM   #137
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Sorry Phil,
I missed your post entirely.
Bought a house in Concrete .. a good solid town about 30 min up the Skagit (hwy 20). Will be down in about 2 weeks for a week or 2 then maybe back up for another week. The boat's at Latitude Marine in LaConner .. blocked up. Got the house covered and I think the rest will be OK.
Are you in Everett? Think I've seen your boat there. First thing we do when we're in Everett is go to the Sisters by the CO-OP and Herald.
When is the next PNW Rondy going to be? This time I can make it.
I have a 27" i-mac and an I pad. Use the i-pad mostly for a nav aid. I use it w my chart plotter then I can keep what's in front of me on my screen. Keeps me off most of the rocks. But w/o my computer I use the i-pad when I find wi-fi like at Starbucks.
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Old 09-18-2012, 12:07 AM   #138
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Marin,
Don't know nuthin.
Anchored in the harbor way up at the head past the several marinas.
Good anchorage. Plenty of room for scope w your old Buick hood ornament style anchor. Saw practically no Rocna's until we were very far south. I think they are getting more common down here. Still have my Manson Supreme but only used it once on the trip. I think I was afraid I'd pull up a bunch of mud. Had almost no mud come up on the anchors ... mostly used the XYZ.
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Great pictures eric. What a lovwerly part of the world. 'Course, I can't feel the temperature there - that might change my mind a bit. Queensland has made me soft.
I agree with Marin that Alaskan 49 is a great design. I can't agree with you about it being top heavy looking - not like it is, but it's a classic illustration of a design I reckon one should not slap a flybridge on to, as that would ruin the lines. Also, being raised pilothouse design, with that whatever-it's-called bridge thing - memory fails me for the moment - at the pilothouse level, who needs a flybridge anyway?
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Portugese bridge. I have no idea why it's called that but it can be a nice feature according to the people I've talked to who have boats with them. Everything from letting you get round the front of the boat in rough water without being exposed to waves and spray to being a great safety "net" for small children to get round the boat, assuming you keep the center door closed and locked.
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