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Old 12-17-2014, 12:26 PM   #1
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Cuba in the Near Future?

I just saw a news flash that Obama will pretty quickly normalize relations with Cuba including resolving financial and travel issues. I presume that will mean that Cuba will be open again for US cruisers. That will be a very cool thing. A lot of cruisers will be heading that way.
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Old 12-17-2014, 12:30 PM   #2
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I would agree. It'll be a far trip from Seattle for you, but you can raft up with us when you get there

hmmm.. maybe I leave palm beach and head back south
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Old 12-17-2014, 01:20 PM   #3
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Incentive for us to make the trip!
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Old 12-17-2014, 01:23 PM   #4
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Very cool developments!
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Old 12-17-2014, 01:24 PM   #5
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Incentive for us to make the trip!
We make great margaritas!
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Still doubt Bacardi will get its distillery back. Will continue to get our rum from Puerto Rico where it has been making rum for the last 50 years or so.
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the full press release says that travel for tourism will still be restricted. maybe i misunderstood?
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Old 12-17-2014, 02:17 PM   #8
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Still doubt Bacardi will get its distillery back. Will continue to get our rum from Puerto Rico where it has been making rum for the last 50 years or so.
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Greetings,
Bacardi rum is rotgut but those Cohiba Robustos are a nice smoke. IF travel and trade restrictions are relaxed, let's hope the mafia is kept out of the country this time.
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This is long overdue. I hope we can all put this on our cruising bucket list.
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I smoked a lot of Cuban cigars my brother brought back from either Spain or Venezuela and I only found one I liked. I prefer Dominican with a Connecticut wrapper. With a Scotch, single malt of course.
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Bacardi rum is rotgut but those Cohiba Robustos are a nice smoke. IF travel and trade restrictions are relaxed, let's hope the mafia is kept out of the country this time.
Havana Club rum
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Oh I agree! what a difference in taste!!
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My son spent some time at Gitmo doing IT work. The pics he sent home portray another tropical paradise.

A friend spent some time in Cuba on some sort of language immersion/education project. He was not impressed at first and wanted to come home. Said everything is as advertised - a run-down, 3rd world hellhole. But it grew on him the longer he stayed.

I wish I could have visited before the Revolution - from what I understand, it was like Vegas and New Orleans on steroids. At least for us monied gringos anyhow. Not so much for the locals.
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I smoked a lot of Cuban cigars my brother brought back from either Spain or Venezuela and I only found one I liked. I prefer Dominican with a Connecticut wrapper. With a Scotch, single malt of course.
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I hear Cuba has a lot of nice beaches. Wonder how the Cuban Americans are taking this...
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Cuba has been on Lena's bucket list. We better hurry up though, she wants to get there before they open up a McDonald's. (She's not counting the one at Guantanamo Bay)
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Old 12-17-2014, 04:13 PM   #18
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I'm sure there will be those who feel very strongly both ways, especially close to our home in South Florida. For many, it's a very personal issue. However, it gradually is becoming a little less so as a new generation comes along that doesn't have direct memory of the events that led to the embargo.

In practical terms, the lifting of the trade embargo will definitely benefit South Florida businesses. Overall it will benefit the people of Cuba and the US. We have products they'd like to buy but being able to afford them is limited until they well us products we want. The purpose of the embargo had long ago ceased to exist.

In terms of travel and this is where trawlers are involved, I didn't understand the realities until moving to South Florida. Floridians travel to Cuba all the time and take money. Travel from the US is an important contributor to the Cuban economy. The fact of having to go through a third country only increases the cost and inconvenience. So, overall the travel restriction is definitely not 100%. Now Cubans don't have the same ability to travel here. This leads also to a terrible business of smuggling of athletes. They ultimately reach the US but at great risk and having committed a large part of their future income to the gangs that assisted them. Anytime something is pushed underground, protection by the law disappears. On the other hand travel by boat has been restricted and just like the athletes coming this way, those going to Cuba by boat have subjected themselves to significant risk. If you're working around the law, it doesn't protect you.

The embargo came about in 1960. That's ten years before I was born. The average age in the US is 37, but you'd have to be 54 to have been alive then and probably 70 to remember the time. This was a national security issue that no longer exists.

It seems only natural to change. Otherwise it's like the Hatfields and McCoys where the current generation has no understanding of the original issues. I think gradually you could see Cuba again become a great cruising ground. South Floridians go to the Bahamas all the time, but those desiring to go to Cuba if equivalent resources were there for tourists could be huge.

I heard it once said that all that was keeping the Embargo was that Fidel Castro was still alive. Even though he's relatively inactive today, he remains an issue for many. Their families suffered at what they would say "his hands." They took a treacherous trip here by boat. But by sheer aging of the population the group opposed to "trading with Castro" has diminished.

I have Cuban friends. Many go there several times a year and are close to their family. At this time the reason for the embargo is long gone and so it does harm but lacks purpose.

I look forward to the time Cuba is another cruising ground. One of the benefits of limiting Presidents to two terms is that sometimes they feel more free to take care of long term problems that might be politically difficult. As a businessman I look forward to importing product from Cuban factories. I import today from far less friendly countries. And perhaps that's the point. The Cuban people and American people like each other and have always done so.

Again as boaters the potential is one of the best places we could go. Reestablished as a tourist center. it's likely to be one of the most pleasant places to go.
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Growing up in Tampa Bay this was a very touchy subject I have been to Cuba several times my land home is in Thomasville, Ga here is a short Video of the trip to Cuba

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Well said BandB, however I do remember watching the television during the Cuban missile crisis and as a lad of about 10 I was scared to death. Thankfully my children have no memory of that and almost no knowledge of it. The Cuban people are the ones that have suffered and hopefully will now benefit from normalized relations.
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