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08-02-2015, 02:04 PM
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Guru
City: Beaufort, NC USA
Vessel Name: Sylphide
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Which one of you is this??
I snagged a few crappy pics of this fine vessel through the binoculars just now. She's called First Snow. She was off Stoneport, Michigan, headed north on a gloomy, squally day.
Is that a Selene?
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08-02-2015, 02:26 PM
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Guru
City: Hotel, CA
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 8,323
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wayfarer
Is that a Selene?
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Yes I believe so. Judging by the saloon windows she should be in the 60'ish foot range.
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08-02-2015, 02:40 PM
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Guru
City: Beaufort, NC USA
Vessel Name: Sylphide
Vessel Model: Kingston Aluminum Yacht 44' Custom
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Posts: 2,228
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CPseudonym
Yes I believe so. Judging by the saloon windows she should be in the 60'ish foot range.
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Yeah, I was thinking upper 50s. Lovely boat.
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08-02-2015, 02:53 PM
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Guru
City: Hailing Port: Charleston, SC
Vessel Name: Moonstruck
Vessel Model: Sabre 42 Hardtop Express
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Posts: 8,276
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At least a 53', Yes, it is Selene. Hard to mistake the "wannabe" windows in the pilot house.
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08-02-2015, 02:55 PM
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TF Site Team
City: California Delta
Vessel Name: FlyWright
Vessel Model: 1977 Marshall Californian 34 LRC
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 13,728
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08-02-2015, 03:54 PM
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Guru
City: Port Townsend Washington
Vessel Name: " OTTER "
Vessel Model: Ocean Alexander Europa 40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Moonstruck
At least a 53', Yes, it is Selene. Hard to mistake the "wannabe" windows in the pilot house.
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I might be the only one here but I think the term "wannabe" windows is a touch harsh or even crass. I personally woundn't think of having a bluewater boat with any other type of windows. The benefits totally outweigh any negative look in the design. On a boat like Moonstruck they would look just plain stupid.. but at sea, at night, in the rain or in the right harsh light they are the best.
Selene probably used them for the look.
HOLLYWOOD
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08-02-2015, 05:48 PM
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Guru
City: Hailing Port: Charleston, SC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hollywood8118
I might be the only one here but I think the term "wannabe" windows is a touch harsh or even crass. I personally woundn't think of having a bluewater boat with any other type of windows. The benefits totally outweigh any negative look in the design. On a boat like Moonstruck they would look just plain stupid.. but at sea, at night, in the rain or in the right harsh light they are the best.
Selene probably used them for the look.
HOLLYWOOD
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Not my term. Notice it is in quotation marks. That term can be attributed to one of our esteemed forum members. In fact a member with a very high message count. . . . ., snd that's all I've got to say about that.
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08-02-2015, 06:00 PM
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Guru
City: Fort Myers, FL... Summers in the Great Lakes
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Vessel Model: Cherubini Independence 45
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Posts: 12,834
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Moonstruck
Not my term. Notice it is in quotation marks. That term can be attributed to one of our esteemed forum members. In fact a member with a very high message count. . . . ., snd that's all I've got to say about that.
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Would that be the one who would tell you it wasn't a trawler also.
Ted
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08-02-2015, 06:11 PM
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Guru
City: Hailing Port: Charleston, SC
Vessel Name: Moonstruck
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Quote:
Originally Posted by O C Diver
Would that be the one who would tell you it wasn't a trawler also.
Ted
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I think you are on to something, Ted.
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08-02-2015, 09:13 PM
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Guru
City: Port Townsend Washington
Vessel Name: " OTTER "
Vessel Model: Ocean Alexander Europa 40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Moonstruck
I think you are on to something, Ted.
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the same one who thinks grand banks are ugly?
OC, you are one of the lucky ones that KNOW the attributes of forward sloped pilot house windows. Great boat by the way!
Hollywood
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08-02-2015, 09:29 PM
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Master and Commander
City: Vallejo CA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
Vessel Model: penultimate Seahorse Marine Coot hull #6
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 12,559
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Thought I was the first one criticized for wannabe pilothouse windows (love 'em)!
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08-02-2015, 10:41 PM
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Guru
City: Pahrump, NV
Vessel Name: Pairadice
Vessel Model: Sold Selene 47
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 1,967
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Tough Crowd!
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08-02-2015, 10:59 PM
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Wannabe
City: SF Bay Area
Vessel Name: Stillwater
Vessel Model: Kadey-Krogen 54
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 782
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Yeah, not feeling the love here either.
Richard
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08-02-2015, 11:21 PM
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TF Site Team
City: California Delta
Vessel Name: FlyWright
Vessel Model: 1977 Marshall Californian 34 LRC
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 13,728
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Don't get the wrong idea, guys. We love all boats! But I hear it's bad luck to post pics of your boat with its old name. Hope that's not true, Richard.
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08-03-2015, 12:04 AM
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Wannabe
City: SF Bay Area
Vessel Name: Stillwater
Vessel Model: Kadey-Krogen 54
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 782
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyWright
Don't get the wrong idea, guys. We love all boats! But I hear it's bad luck to post pics of your boat with its old name. Hope that's not true, Richard.
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Al,
I think you're mistaken. Take a closer look at the photo.
Richard
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08-03-2015, 12:32 AM
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Guru
City: Beaufort, NC USA
Vessel Name: Sylphide
Vessel Model: Kingston Aluminum Yacht 44' Custom
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 2,228
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I really like the 'wannabe' winders. I've seen that phrase thrown around here and was wondering where it stemmed from...
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08-03-2015, 12:46 AM
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Guru
City: Campbell River
Vessel Name: Okisollo
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 783
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When I built my previous boat, a / foot troller, I put foreward sloping windows in the wheel house. Several advantages.
Present boat doesn't have them.
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08-03-2015, 01:15 AM
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Guru
City: Beaufort, NC USA
Vessel Name: Sylphide
Vessel Model: Kingston Aluminum Yacht 44' Custom
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 2,228
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I'm always happy to see Oki. Such a great boat! She'd look odd with forward sloped windows. The vertical ones you have are a perfect fit.
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08-03-2015, 01:17 AM
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Scraping Paint
City: -
Join Date: Oct 2007
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I fully understand the attributes and advantages of reverse raked windshields on vessels that will benefit from them On most toy recreational boats they are simpky butt ugly in my opinion, serve no purpose other than trying to look "seaworthy," and basically ruin the aesthetics of every boat that has them, again in my opinion. Hence my term "wannabe windows". Not much differnt than "wannabe trawlers" i guess.
Whether or not a person chooses to use this term thenselves is not my concern. It's what i call them, same as "cabin cruiser" or "diesel cabin cruiser" is how i refer to our boat since that's what it actually is. It is no more a "trawler" than my Ford pickup is a Formula One car.
And yes, I don't find Grand Banks boats all that good looking despite having one.
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08-03-2015, 01:27 AM
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Guru
City: Beaufort, NC USA
Vessel Name: Sylphide
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Marin
I fully understand the attributes and advantages of reverse raked windshields on vessels that will benefit from them. On most toy recreational boats they are simply butt ugly in my opinion, serve no purpose other than trying to look "seaworthy," and basically ruin the aesthetics of every boat that has them, again in my opinion. Hence my term "wannabe windows". Not much different than "wannabe trawlers" I guess.
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I suppose you could say the same sort of things about the shutters on my house. A working shutter serves a purpose, but mine are just dummies. I like the way they look, though. I also have a wannabe rear diffuser on my car.
Actually, I think the windows on that Selene are my favorite part of the whole design. The way the angle plays off the Portuguese bridge, and how it all ties into the sheer and rake of the bow really does it for me. I've always admired that part of the Nordhavn 46 as well.
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