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Old 08-19-2010, 10:21 AM   #21
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Got it! *We *had *a wind generator on our Endeavour 42 and*also she was quiet above deck,*we felt we were taking off at night in our berth. *The vibration came down the supports and was magnified by the distance it traveled! *Donna
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Old 08-27-2010, 01:00 PM   #22
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Loved you site and the video clips. *We too just bought a Prairie 29 and she sits in Baltimore waiting for us to bring her home to North Port, FL... not too far from you. *I have not even heard the engine run, but my husband went out with the broker and the gentleman who inspected the boat. *We love her for her size and are former sailors with boats ranging from 21' to 42' and extensive cruising. *Now we are looking forward to more gunk-holing etc in Lemon Bay and the West coast of Florida.
I wondered if you could answer a few questions for me? *How much "rolling" do you experience with your boat. *Do you have propane and where is your tank located? *Do you find the boat cool enough without AC?
Our boat has had many upgrades and really does not "need" any additions excluding those that we all add to make the boat "ours". *Thanks for any info you may have! *Donna Cass

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Sorry for a late reply (we have been out West). *Our propane tank is stored as yours, upper helm to port. *2 bottles. *I have Lupus, so we use the AC quite a bit, but without that malady it would be fine. *We installed a 8000 btu "regular" room ac that we use most of the time (easy install) as it runs on 1 2000 Honda (on the roof) while the 16,000 btu onboard ac takes 2 Hondas to start. *Roll is as stated in the other posts and doubtless you're familiar with it by now. *Great boats - we're still glad we bought ours and the adventures continue, hopefully for many more years.

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Old 08-27-2010, 02:52 PM   #23
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Good to hear from you. We watched a lot of your U-Tube posts and enjoyed them. Sorry to hear about the lupus. It can be nasty. You seem to be in control. Thanks for the tips. We may go the Honda route or with a quiet air cooled diesel, but that last is big.
The 8000 seems to be big enough for the volume of the cabin and berth. What's your experience with the house unit? Be well Rick & Donna
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Old 08-28-2010, 07:55 AM   #24
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Donna here.... we looked at a 29 that the owner had installed a window ac in the port aft window and to be honest, it looked awful.. well that was par for the boat anyway! *My question is where do you place the ac unit? *Our boat has a window ac unit that the former owner installed on a temp basis, in the lower half of the salon door and had a canvas closure made that installed around and above the ac unit . *It did the job, but is a pain to enter and exit the salon. *We also travel with two cats. *While we are at anchor this is no problem, however at a dock they are curious and want to wander the docks smelling along the way. *They are quite adept at escaping the salon and my fear is they will figure out how to escape through the spaced snaps on the canvas.We also have a new hatch in the salon, behind the upper helm station. *We are looking into the type of AC unit that is roof mounted as in a *motor home. *Physical size of the unit matters. * *All of these plans are in the future. *We have yet to leave on the boat ..she still sits in Baltimore and we are in Massachsetts .. we have no experience on the movement of the boat. * *I hope Rick leaves this week on a 30 delivery trip to the Sea of Cortez. *Then the real experience behins. *For now , I just dream!
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Old 08-29-2010, 05:19 AM   #25
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Some time in the past one of the owners did add a RV roof A/C to Trixsea over the lower helm station.* When I bought Trixsea there was just a covered hole.* I added a large reversible fan in that spot.* As for the A/C I would look at what Matt did to install
AC on his Prairie.* He used a portable unit mounted under the aft port window.* You can see the installation in one of his first videos.*

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Old 08-29-2010, 08:09 AM   #26
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Thanks for the info, Prairie Jack. We are lucky in that the prior owner installed a hatch behind the seats on the FB, so if we can find the right size, the install should be easy. Straycat
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Old 08-29-2010, 09:48 AM   #27
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My experience with the RV type AC installed on the Bridge is that it takes a large amount of valuable walking space out of your bridge area. The units work good, just the bulk of the unit sticking up in the middle of the bridge deck.

The unit installed by Matt on Mischef makes a lot of sense to me.

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Old 09-12-2010, 11:10 AM   #28
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You will love your Prairie trawler. We are the Owners of the Miss Dot Dee Hull #50. Are you guys members of the Prairie Trawler owners assoication if not let me know and I will send you the information. I have done almost a total refit* of the vessel to include a new custom water tank that is on its way here. As for the AC question it all depends on how much your gonna use the boat and how your gonna use it. If You are going to live aboard and have a spot in the engine room as does ours I would put in a marine revearse cycle system. It will cool in the summer heat in the winter and will not take up the space like a system that it portable will. It also is wonderful when you have to spend time workign in the bilge as I just take the air vent line off and instant AC down there. I work on RV's as well and the RV A/C's are not designed for a salt water environment. These systems are big and bulky and the ventign inside the cabin would be difficult but could be done. Hope this helps out.


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Old 09-12-2010, 01:55 PM   #29
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Sailormike, Very nice set up. We just completed the survey of our PPrairie 29. She is presently named Miss Money and is hull #8. We purchased her from the orginial and only owners. She does have a marince ac/ reverse system and a koller gen. I agree with your comments re: RV air, they are not acompartiable fit to a salt water enviroment.

Your engine room set up is awesome, I am about to begin a three-four month upgrade of the boats systems. The biggest drawback to the boat is she has sat for almost five years with no use.

We are not members of the Prairie Trawlwer owners association but are very much interested, would appreciate the information.

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Donna here as Rick the Captain in en-route to the Panama Canal on a delivery. *I know he will catch up with all the postings when he returns. *He would agree with me that your engine room is awesome! *Loved the plumbing of the hot and cold water lines! *I will assume that the "pipes" themselves come in those colors and you did not alter them ! *As of yet, we do not have AC or a generator and welcome all thoughts regarding those. *We like to anchor out most of the time and AC would be used for hot nights. *We don't need heat as we have a radiant propane heater already neatly installed. *We live on the West Coast of Florida, but plan more extensive cruising in the US. *Have done the Bahamas in a sailboat and the East Coast numerous times, also in sailboats. *Your exterior closure increases your living area too. *Did you put in the transom door too? That is one feature we would like to add also. *All in all a great retrofit!
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Old 09-14-2010, 02:46 PM   #31
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Good to hear from you. We watched a lot of your U-Tube posts and enjoyed them. Sorry to hear about the lupus. It can be nasty. You seem to be in control. Thanks for the tips. We may go the Honda route or with a quiet air cooled diesel, but that last is big.
The 8000 seems to be big enough for the volume of the cabin and berth. What's your experience with the house unit? Be well Rick & Donna
Donna:

The 8000 will cool the cabin and berth up to 95 degrees, beyond that, it will cool the cabin alone. *The unit we installed is an:


Everstar Model MPM-08CR-BB4, volts 115, BTU 8000, Watts 980, Amps 9.3


We run our Honda 2000 on the roof, it is quiet up there and the exhaust vents over with the roof extension (close the transom door)


We chose the stand up unit for the reasons others have given, it only requires a circular hole cut in the rear bulkhead for exhaust, there is no hose needed for exhaust, we fit ours flush to the bulkhead and secured the unit. *It operates flawlessly on the Honda. *As for space, it uses little of it, and certainly isn't the eyesore that a window unit or roof unit would be (certainly when removed). *An added plus is it will run on a standard ac line to the boat so we can work in comfort when it is at home (we don't have a 50 or 30 amp dock service at the house). *One thing to consider is the unit will exhaust so much air that the cabin (and berth) will have suction on it, so you will need to plug the sink and other openings or it will suck air into the cabin through them and create a bubble bath for all (or worse). *Bigger (more btu) would certainly be better, but we weighed the cost (these units were/are very inexpensive) and by limiting ourselves to 8000 the generator still runs in the "eco" mode and runs all night long.


Again, if it is a super hot day, we do have the reverse cycle air and won't hesitate to fire that up, but it takes both generators to power and we have opted at times to cruise with one generator and sleep in the cabin.


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Sorry Donna it has taken me so long to get back to you. It has been a busy week and an intresting one as well. Well I can whole heartedly say do not buy a water tank from Plastic Mart they do not tell the truth and do not stand behind there products. The new tank cam in 6 weeks after it was ordered and a a rotomolded tank when it was supposed to be a welded baffled tank. Filled tank up outside the boat to test and make sure all is well and I found that the best that I could measure there is at least two inches of bowing on the sides. The top is caving in at least 2 inches and the tank is trying to collaps. Now have to fight to try to get money back. enough with that makes me flustrated to talk about it. As for the transom door it was allready installed when we bought the boat I believe the first owner had it installed. Yes I did the water lines in Blue and Red PEX piping. its Great stuff to work with. Here is a website that has plenty of pictures of the boat on it and my work I have done to it. www.missdotdee.net
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Old 09-17-2010, 11:42 AM   #33
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Tried to get on your site for the photos of your boat and found it confusing. *Still want to see them though. *I was curious to know what the interior layout of your boat is like. *Is your galley on the port side of the boat or is it a "L" galley. * We need to do something about a dining area and we have a leather sofa on the starboard that is quite comfortable. *It is always interesting to see how these boats have been adapted to the individual owners. *Donna
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Donna, Got on his site easily, need to go to missdotdee.net. His layout is like yours, galley on port side.

He done an excellent job, very appealing. Think you will enjoy.

Thanks for shareing Sailormike.

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Tried again with www.missdotdee.net and was not able to find it again. *Maybe it is my computer! * Donna
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Donna it has to be you computer it works on all of mine and my smart phone is it not coming up at all. Our layout is like yours love seat sleeper couch to the right and L shaped galley to the left. We use folding teak tables for dining.
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It works on my computer also.
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I will try it from my brother's computer. *As for my galley, it runs only on the port side.. no "L" *Leaves a smaller area for dining and there is a new beautiful teak table that folds into thirds. *The seating however is a lare storage bin, like a pool deck box. *While it affords us much storage, and does have cushions, I think I would prefer a more stationary unit with deep drawers. *Our catamaran had this type of storage and I found it more convenient for storage. *The table base is screwed to the floor but the table can be raised up to remove it. I don't want to have to remove cushions every time I want to get at something. *Donna
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What a great bot. *You have done incredible upgrades on the boat. *I was able to see all on my brother's computer. *I like the fact that your galley sink is in the center of the galley... ours is in the corner. *but we will live with her as is for now. *Just great work. *Is your sofa a love seat that opens out to a bed? *Is your berth big enough for two? *Did you add the storage on the starboard side in the birth area? *I'll most likely have many other questions for you including the oak floor in the salon .. Looks comfy! * Donna
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I have just finished the Air Breeze install and the installation of the two 170 watt solar panels.* They make more than enough power, I can run everything except the A/C.*
I have a question, I need to replace my cutless bearing has anyone of you done this?*
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