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Old 05-18-2017, 05:56 PM   #1
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New to Me Prairie 36 Finally at Home

After some negotiations and equivocation my Prairie 36 is finally moored behind my house. My son Dan and I mover her from her previous berth In Englewood, FL on Sunday, May 15 2017. We did the 40 nautical miles in 6 hours. The main salon plaque says CC/36-015. I'm guessing that it means that it is a 36 footer and is the 15th hull, but I'm very open to correction.

This next may need to be in a separate thread, but here goes. I am very happy with my purchase, but I have one concern at this point. The cabin window plastic frames are in poor condition as the fittings that hold the windows closed are failing and at some point there won't be enough to keep the them closed. I haven't done any other research on this issue as I think that this would be the place to start. Does anyone know of a solution to this problem up to and including replacement of the entire unit?

Thanks in advance for any help and suggestions.

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Old 05-18-2017, 06:11 PM   #2
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Greetings,
Welcome aboard. By cabin window plastic frames do you mean the portholes?
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Old 05-18-2017, 06:15 PM   #3
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Welcome aboard and congratulation for this nice lady!
I am sure that is you post some pictures of your issue, some folks here will bring you in the right direction.

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Old 05-18-2017, 06:37 PM   #4
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Greetings,
Welcome aboard. By cabin window plastic frames do you mean the portholes?
Yes, but in my world, perhaps incorrect, portholes are round.

In either case the below pictures will show the unit and the problem. The lower picture shows the missing fittings and they are missing because of the deterioration of the plastic part of the frames.

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You can use the term "portlight". Not all holes are round.

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Old 05-18-2017, 07:38 PM   #6
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We replaced our broken tab plastic portlights with new stainless models, purchased direct from the factory in China. It was a qty 5 minimum and made to order which took a few months.

Check out the video here and factory info in the comments section. Unable to copy and paste the notes via my phone. Good luck.


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Old 05-18-2017, 07:39 PM   #7
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Welcome! We have a number of Prairie owners here.

Some of the port lights on my 36' (Hull #23) had been replaced before I bought it. I ended up replacing about 4 or 5 of them, so now they're all done. They were a standard size. I could look up the brand I bought if it would help.

I'm pretty happy with the results, and glad I didn't try to squeeze a few more years out of them by replacing parts. Eventually the plastic pins on the hinges will become brittle and break anyway.
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Greetings,,
Perhaps New Found Metals makes a replacement...New Found Metals, Inc.
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I just replaced my port-lights with New Found Metals and I am very impressed with the quality and a bonus they are made in America forged in PT Townsend, Washington. Installation is a bit more involved but result looks solid and about same price as Chinese versions
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Welcome aboard and congratulations on your Prairie 36.

On our Prairie 36 (Hull # 37) we have been fortunate enough not to loose any of the portlight parts. However, I have had to glue a number of the broken plastic parts back together using a good epoxy. So far they are still holding.

On our previous boat I bought new stainless steel portlights and hatches to replace the plastic ones. It gets expensive real fast. No immediate plans to replace the portlights on our Prairie 36.
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Old 05-19-2017, 05:12 AM   #11
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Thank-you all. You have been most helpful.
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Old 05-22-2017, 08:11 AM   #12
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Hi Bob,
The new boat looks great, best of luck with it. Missing pine island and all the guy's, see you when we get back in Oct.
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I'm all for sourcing locally in the US if available. If not, we replaced our CHB 34' portlights with stainless, made to order factory direct.

"5 pieces LS-0512S stainless steel 316 porthole ,the FOB price is USD 280/piece ,not including the freight fee to USA ,It have Tempered glass and bug screen"
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Your ports are a larger size, if you email dimensions to the factory they will quote. We waited approx 2 months for creation + slow ship to California. Build quality is excellent, mine have been installed for 1 year now, no leaks, no corrosion, no issues. Bug screens are nice quality as well.

One design issue I found odd was the outer and inner bracket holes alternate. It is not possible to through bolt the full assembly. We had to screw the outer port to the fiberglass + core and, the inner portion through the interior veneer + core.

Next time I will request holes drilled to allow through bolting the entire assembly. Unless there is an angle issue preventing the interior and exterior from installing parallel.
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Hi Bob,
I owned a 44 Atlantic which were originally the Prairie/Atlantic brand. I had portlights made by Fuller Brush. These may be what you have on board. and they may still be available. Try googling Fuller Brrush.
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Perhaps New Found Metals makes a replacement...New Found Metals, Inc.
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I just replaced my port-lights with New Found Metals and I am very impressed with the quality and a bonus they are made in America forged in PT Townsend, Washington.
That's what my original ports were replaced with. REALLY nice though not cheap!
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Thanks again guys and gals. You've been most helpful.
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Cape Bob;
So how are you liking, enjoying your Prairie 36?

Any trips or work youve done?

Just very interested in how a new owner is working out?

Thanks.

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Old 06-30-2017, 03:05 PM   #18
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Hi Tim,

I love my Prairie 36, but I've taken no trips to amount to anything to this point. Most of my efforts have been to get the mechanical systems working. The fresh water system had more leaks than the government and neither air conditioning plants were working. I was able to sort the water system, but the air required professional help. Both systems had been working up until yesterday when the cooling water pump died. A new one is on the way. Also, there were many smaller items that required attention. The horn, VHF and some navigation lights were not working, but they were all simple fixes.

I had to have my dock reworked to comfortably berth my 36 so she was at a neighbors dock for several weeks and that dock has very limited power. She is finally back at her berth but with our summer heat she is gong to sit until the air conditioning is back up and running.

After our weather cools a little I'll be tackling the external cosmetics including replacement of the portlights.


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Sounds like you will be ready for some overnights by the time we get down in Oct. Say hi to everyone.
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Will do Curt.
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