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Old 09-13-2012, 11:49 AM   #1
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Smile Winter Covers

Sadly,
The winter cover up time is near.
New England weather can be brutal.
This is my first year with the Albin 36 DC. The yard estimate to shrink wrap is $1200.00.
Anyone using tarps and wood framework to accomplish this?
Perhaps a pic or sketch of the necessary framework woud be appreciated.

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Old 09-13-2012, 12:02 PM   #2
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For my 34' Marine Trader (see my Avatar) I've rigged up a reusable gig with PVC and those grey plastic, very flexible electrical conduit tubes. Along with an enormous (30' x 50') tarp from a farm supply company. All held together with wire ties.

I spent maybe $600 - $700, the tarp was the biggest expense. I've gotten 3 years out of the tarp and will get at least 1 - 2 more. I can set the entire Rube Goldberg thing up by myself in about 2 hours. I only need help in getting the tarp over the top. When done, it looks like a Conestoga wagon mated with a rocket-ship.

I do have pics somewhere. If I can find them I'll post them up.
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Old 09-13-2012, 12:56 PM   #3
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And, a few more.
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Old 09-13-2012, 01:06 PM   #4
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Thank you

You have done a great job with the PVC conduits and it looks very weatherproof .

I will put your ideas to good use


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Old 09-13-2012, 01:51 PM   #5
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I wish something like that would work for me.
Just to much wind anything short of plywood gets shredded.

We have 90+ mph wind regularly.

Nice job.

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Old 09-13-2012, 02:18 PM   #6
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Great work BL,
I just have the cabin tarped. Double tarped w HD white tarp on top and blue underneath. Going to refinish the cap rail and all on deck is OK. I took dn my radar platform and stored the (most) antenna's in the rubber duckie. My fwd skylight has it's own cover and is effective.
The cleat/winch platform is exposed to the weather and is being tested for durability. It's lasted one Alaska winter already.
Next year we'll be in covered moorage.
Pic is of our foredeck w the plywood winch/cleat platform.
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Old 09-13-2012, 02:51 PM   #7
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I also make a frame out of PBC pipe with a blue tarp over. However, because of the wind, 60+ the tarp is held by bungee cords, so the tarp allows wind to passes over and under the tarp. The PBC frame is duct taped so to flexes, and the whole thing, PBC frame and tarp shake rattle and rolls in the wind. At 60+ MPH the frame and tarp lay flat to the deck, so it sort of like when a sail boat that gets knocked down. After the wind, I straighten it back up, until the next wind flatens it again. A tarp will last two years maybe three.

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Old 09-13-2012, 04:23 PM   #8
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We just did Hobo and they say it's good for 60 mph winds. We tented to keep the rain off not the snow though . We hired a guy who does it for a living on the side. It took 3 of us about 40 man hours over a weekend and a few nights. We used 40-20' pieces of 1" schedule 40 pvc.

Jamestown Distributors has some videos on how to shrink wrap a boat.
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Old 09-13-2012, 04:41 PM   #9
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Y'all should leave them up for the summer too. Look like a good ol' boy redneck going down the waterway.
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Old 09-13-2012, 04:45 PM   #10
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I have had some problems with heavy snow. You'll notice the slope from the fly-bridge to the bow isn't very steep. Snow wants to collect there and cave the tarp in just behind the bow pulpit rails. And I can tell you from personal experience that when that little area fills with snow & ice it weighs a TON!

I have added a few more bows to that area to try to fix the problem. It worked fine last year, but we didn't get anywhere near as much snow as we did in the 1st winter with this rig.

Also, when the sun is shining it gets plenty warm in there. It's dark so you'll need lights but it's shirt sleeve temperature.
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Old 09-13-2012, 04:47 PM   #11
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Or you could get a cover custom made, this is our local guy. He has made over 4000 covers, a lot of boats in the PNW have them. No as inexpensive as a tarp but look better, stand up and last for years. Same material used to cover small planes.
http://www.boatcovers.org/Boatcovers.htm
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How often do you, or can you, go by and knock the snow off the tarp?
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Old 09-13-2012, 04:48 PM   #13
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Larry - great minds think alike! Did you use cable ties to hold things together? I find all sorts of uses for them. Almost as good as duct tape.
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Larry - great minds think alike! Did you use cable ties to hold things together? I find all sorts of uses for them. Almost as good as duct tape.
Cable ties are great but for this we used 1/4" polypropylene rope. We cut 12"-18" pieces then unwound the 3 strands and knotted each end. On some areas we used tape to make sure pvc against pvc doesn't' slide. We used PVC Tees cut to use as stand-offs for support where needed. The guy with the gun, Troy, showed us the tricks.
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Old 09-13-2012, 06:22 PM   #15
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I love that trick with the T's! I tweak my rig every year I set it up. I may find a use for the T's this year.
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Old 09-13-2012, 11:41 PM   #16
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winter cover

I use the same system as BL, but for the frame work I use well pipe. 2'' for the main or center support front to back and 1 1/2'' for the ribs. I use plastic ties to attach ribs to stanchions. We use a 30 + 50 heavy duty plastic tarp, good for 3 or 4 years $125.00 . Has worked for 18 years, most snow melts and runs off, hasn't been a problem .We are able to get into the boat to do some work . As BL said it does get warm under the tarp.
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Nice work, Darrrel, but I am surprised that you haul every winter. I'd think that you would be OK leaving the boat in the water where you are. Any particular reason you choose to haul and cover it?
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Al, good question! Now that I think about it I suppose it's partially reflex, 'cuz, isn't that what we're supposed to do in the winter? And partially because I'm concerned about leaving her exposed to the snow and ice freeze/thaw cycles.

What, exactly, those freeze/thaw cycles will do to the boat that would be different in the water vs. on land under a cover I'm not entirely sure about. My totally unscientific, gut feel is that it will accelerate the disintegration of the already wet wood core of the flybridge, house and deck. If I had a covered slip I would have no hesitation leaving her in the water year 'round.

Am I worrying needlessly? I am open to suggestion. There are a number of nice days during the layup period - Thanksgiving weekend thru April - when I ache to take her out for a run.
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Larry - great minds think alike! Did you use cable ties to hold things together? I find all sorts of uses for them. Almost as good as duct tape.

I using duct tape. That way the structure is not firm/ridged, and will flex move and even flatten out.
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I using duct tape. That way the structure is not firm/ridged, and will flex move and even flatten out.

Phil, you might think about the cable ties. They allow for plenty of flex and movement. So much so that where I want to limit it I drill through the PVC and lace the cable ties through as well as around the tubes. They're easy to remove in the Spring with a pair of dikes or a box cutter and they leave no sticky residue behind.

I have had a few of the cable ties break under extreme wind and snow loading conditions.

Larry's split T's trick might help resolve the problem I'm having at the bow where the slope of the cover isn't steep enough to shed heavy snow. I'll be tinkering around with that a bit.
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