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Old 08-14-2015, 04:55 PM   #1
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Window shades....exterior

Anyone make or buy see through shading material for their windows?

I am looking at Phifertex plus in the 90% reduction ...


Phifertex Plus Vinyl Mesh Black 54" Fabric

What do you have? Good and bad?

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Old 08-14-2015, 06:06 PM   #2
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I have a set of these for my boat and the material is great, lets enough light in but dark colours like navy and black suck up a lot of sunlight and that makes in very hot inside. i wish I had gone to white or a lighter colour. Our area is generally sunny. If you are in an area where it is generally overcast or raining this would not be a factor. Good luck with the project.
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Old 08-14-2015, 06:41 PM   #3
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I have a set of these for my boat and the material is great, lets enough light in but dark colours like navy and black suck up a lot of sunlight and that makes in very hot inside. i wish I had gone to white or a lighter colour. Our area is generally sunny. If you are in an area where it is generally overcast or raining this would not be a factor. Good luck with the project.
How is visibility out? You have the 90% or the 70%?
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Anyone make or buy see through shading material for their windows?

I am looking at Phifertex plus in the 90% reduction ...


Phifertex Plus Vinyl Mesh Black 54" Fabric

What do you have? Good and bad?

Thanks....
I had my shades made from Phifertex Vinyl Mesh Almond 54" Fabric which is 70% shade. In broad daylight, from the inside they are transparent enough to operate the boat without removal. From the outside, they provide complete privacy during the day and surprisingly good privacy at night. I'm sure it depends upon the interior lighting level though.

The interior heat load has been greatly reduced, and the A/C works much more efficiently now. It is too early to know, but I'm sure fading of interior fabrics, surfaces etc. will be reduced as well.

The only problem so far is that they do get dirty and require scrubbing a every few weeks to look like new. Also, after a while, dirt streaks appear below each snap that must be scrubbed. All in all, I love them! I will have them on every boat I might own in the future.
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Old 08-14-2015, 07:02 PM   #5
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We bought our Boat with the 70% already on them we are replacing the front this winter

my wife will make them with her sailrite machine using 90%

next will be the sides have not decided on % for the sides

but we love ours they are just getting old
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I had my shades made from Phifertex Vinyl Mesh Almond 54" Fabric which is 70% shade. In broad daylight, from the inside they are transparent enough to operate the boat without removal. From the outside, they provide complete privacy during the day and surprisingly good privacy at night. I'm sure it depends upon the interior lighting level though.

The interior heat load has been greatly reduced, and the A/C works much more efficiently now. It is too early to know, but I'm sure fading of interior fabrics, surfaces etc. will be reduced as well.

The only problem so far is that they do get dirty and require scrubbing a every few weeks to look like new. Also, after a while, dirt streaks appear below each snap that must be scrubbed. All in all, I love them! I will have them on every boat I might own in the future.
White I am guessing? Right now debating white over black for heat gain....hmmmmm.
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Old 08-14-2015, 10:32 PM   #7
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OK .Come on folks...know more of you that have them...

90% or 70%.....the million dollar..well how about a free beer....question?

90% too much? Or worth it?
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I have black 90% and they are too much and the wrong color IMO. Where I replacing them I'd go 70% and more of a straw color.
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Never saw the need at latitude 38. If too bright, just close the interior blinds/curtains.



(Also, having forward-leaning pilothouse windows eliminates a lot of direct sunshine in the pilothouse.)
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Have 70% not enough

Think I would like a lighter color but the trim on boat is black so my choices are white or black

at this point wish I had 90%
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You could have a white summer and black winter set, but probably overkill. We have white, they get dirty easily, don`t know the mesh %. Good vision looking out, sometimes I worry about the view looking in.
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We have 90% in a medium grey color. I like that they block the light and have decent visibility through them. I wish I had white though. We live in a desert climate and it would be easier on the A/C if they were white.


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White I am guessing? Right now debating white over black for heat gain....hmmmmm.
Yes, off white. I have no experience with 90% cloth so I can't compare them for you. It is a very popular choice in this area according to my canvas shop.
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Why do all-white boats use blue canvas rather than white? What's special about blue canvas?
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I have the 90% and have now covered every piece of glass. It an be a little dark for reading inside, but easy to remove them, or turn on a light. The 90% gives really good privacy, one of the major benefits of using it.

The PO had put a blue one on the pilothouse front windows, so I went with blue although i could not get as close a colour match as I wanted. I wish I had a straw colour, just for aesthetic reasons. Although maybe maroon would be better still in case I come across anyone from south of the Queensland border! Heat is not an issue as the salon windows are under covered side decks or the covered cockpit.
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... maybe maroon would be better still in case I come across anyone from south of the Queensland border! ....
Maroon can fade, but one day, magically, the color will be restored. We hope.
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Ah yes, I do fear that maroon might fade....
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Living in Florida I have white at 90%. They do get a little dirty and but with the heat here it makes a huge difference. I also use foil insulation between the windows and the covers. It blocks all heat and UV. Now it does make the cabin dark so that is a drawback. The water temps in my marina make it difficult to have the A/C's work efficiently so every little bit helps.
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Thanks...now leaning towards white 90%....

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How is visibility out? You have the 90% or the 70%?
I have 70%. Good visibility out but I take them off when running from the main helm. Not sure if I would see some debris, trees etc. Usually run from the bridge so not a big factor. Limited privacy at night if there are too many lights on IMO. They are very good though and would not be without them, I would just have picked a lighter colour.
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