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08-25-2013, 05:52 PM
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City: Beaverton, Ontario
Vessel Name: Looking Glass
Vessel Model: Carver 370 Voyager
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Discharge of Oil sticker in the ER
Gentlemen, I am in the process of replacing old rubber dried out and crumbling insulation, and adding in some areas, sound insulation in the ER. On one particular panel the insulation had been cut out badly and a sticker added regarding the Discharge of oil. My question is, since I think we all understand that discharge of any sorts except grey water is illegal in either the US or Canada, do I need to continue to post this placard? As a Canadian boat entering US waters, do I need it? See what I am talking about below. Thanks in advance.
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08-25-2013, 06:06 PM
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City: Miami Florida
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US boats are required to have it as well as one for garbage. Stupid government.
I don't know about your situation but they are cheap why not just avoid the question if you ever get inspected. I put my garbage sticker on my trash can. The Coasty who inspected me was amused by this.
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08-25-2013, 06:07 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
City: Chicago, IL
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The discharge of oil sign is required in the United States. I don't know how this affects a Canadian boat, but why worry about it. Leave the sign.
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08-25-2013, 06:42 PM
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City: PNW
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The Coast Guard Aux. gives the various signs away gratis. Anytime I find them around one of the marina events, I hit them up for fresh replacements. Is that being cheap or what?
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08-25-2013, 06:48 PM
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City: Ft Pierce
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Print them to regular or photo paper and put in a plastic sleeve or laminate...just in case you don't want to hang around the USCGAUX....
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08-25-2013, 07:08 PM
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City: Beaverton, Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by psneeld
Print them to regular or photo paper and put in a plastic sleeve or laminate...just in case you don't want to hang around the USCGAUX....
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Do you have a site source to print these from? Is there any requirement as to where they have to be posted??
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08-25-2013, 07:28 PM
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08-25-2013, 07:31 PM
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City: Ft Pierce
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LaBomba
Do you have a site source to print these from? Is there any requirement as to where they have to be posted??
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on line there's tons....or go to you favorite online ships store and save the image to your computer. Use paint to fix it up if you don't have anything better...or just type out the words and use whatever font suits you.
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08-25-2013, 07:48 PM
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City: Sidney BC Canada
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Here is one I copied the text and made up............
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08-25-2013, 09:20 PM
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City: Full Time Cruising East Coast
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Friends of mine were boarded 2 days ago and the CG wanted to see the signs.
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08-26-2013, 12:33 AM
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West marine has them. For free
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08-26-2013, 05:06 AM
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>Friends of mine were boarded 2 days ago and the CG wanted to see the signs.<
Signs are cheap , post them in the wheelhouse , the engine room , and heads.
Best way to get the Hooligan Navy off the boat is overload them with compliance..
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08-26-2013, 08:46 AM
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City: Southern Maine
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FYI, the "other" placard, the trash one, is in the process of being changed. With typical gov't logic, the new rules have been implemented by the USCG but the US laws haven't yet been changed to catch up, so we're in a sort of limbo about the exact wording and layout of the new placard.
Here is one link that explains it about as clearly as possible.
To summarize, the existing placards and stickers are still good in US waters.
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08-26-2013, 04:50 PM
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Guru
City: Beaverton, Ontario
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Thanks everyone for your help. I have printed both the Oil and Garbage placards off, laminated them and will post on the weekend. Not sure that they required in Canada but no harm done and they don't really take up any room although the one in the engine room can go on a wall instead of the hatch. Cheers
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08-26-2013, 05:41 PM
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Guru
City: Ft Pierce
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LaBomba
Thanks everyone for your help. I have printed both the Oil and Garbage placards off, laminated them and will post on the weekend. Not sure that they required in Canada but no harm done and they don't really take up any room although the one in the engine room can go on a wall instead of the hatch. Cheers
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The homemade laminated ones are nice...
I printed the words on mine with a picture of the BP oil rig fire/spill as the background...
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08-28-2013, 04:09 PM
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Veteran Member
City: Florence
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USCG regs re placards
According to USCG pamphlet on requirements for over 40' vessels, the oil and garbage placards are to be "at least 4 x 9", with oil in "machinery space or bilge" and garbage in a "conspicuous place", and if ocean going with galley and berthing "must have a written Waste Magement Plan...".
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