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Old 05-11-2016, 03:11 PM   #1
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What's your haulout schedule

I try and go as long as I can, longest has been 4 years.
With the bottom paint being weakened by government fiat, how long before you get big barnacles on the hull?
I am at the 2 year mark, and got plenty.
With ye old good TBT paint, at the 4 year mark I was very clean.
We are near LAFB in Hampton Back River, so the lower Chesapeake Bay.

Went fishing last weekend, and had zero bites, and neither did any other boats did we see pulling in any fish.
Last few years have been poor, is the Bay dead or is it fished out by too many fishers?
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Old 05-11-2016, 03:19 PM   #2
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I try and go as long as I can, longest has been 4 years.
With the bottom paint being weakened by government fiat, how long before you get big barnacles on the hull?
I am at the 2 year mark, and got plenty.
With ye old good TBT paint, at the 4 year mark I was very clean.
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Have you considered having a diver clean your hull on a regular basis?

That's the norm where I live even though we use bottom paint. If you have barnacles on your hull your loss of efficiency and extra fuel used will be more than paying the diver.

I can't answer your fish question. Maybe a local fishing forum would have your answers.
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I can go 4 years. But I dock in fresh water and have a diver go down and clean twice a year.
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Old 05-11-2016, 03:25 PM   #4
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Have you considered having a diver clean your hull on a regular basis?

That's the norm where I live even though we use bottom paint. If you have barnacles on your hull your loss of efficiency and extra fuel used will be more than paying the diver.

I can't answer your fish question. Maybe a local fishing forum would have your answers.
I have actually considered diving on my own boat to clean the hull.
I can easily reach several feet down past the chines. To go deeper I need goggles. I did buy a hood.
One summer, we anchored in a shallow cove and cleaned off as much as we could. the problem is of course, only a few months the water is warm enough to make me want to do this. Maybe a dive suit keeps you warmer in the water?

I envy those whose boats are in huge tidal swings, where the entire hull is exposed..
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With Trinidad SR, 3 years was the norm in warm, salt, fertile water with regular cleaning. Right now we're in brackish water and can go about 4 years.

Not to get n a political debate but your old TBT paint was banned in the US, for our boats in 1988, 38 years ago.
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Old 05-11-2016, 03:50 PM   #6
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No schedule ..

Prefer not to schedule anything unless needed or to my advantage.

I can see my prop zinc, rudder zincs and prop by just looking under my canoe stern.

A scedule would probably depend mostly on bottom paint life in your specific area. No point though in using very expensive bottom paint if you need to haul for zincs or some other reason more often. Right now I'm wanting to change my prop so I'm in relative need re that ... but nothing else other than a quickie light spray wash. Too many variables for a schedule but if you've been w a certian boat in a specific spot for some time a schedule could be assigned based on all the well known variables.

Otherwise for me it's just when I have the need.
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Old 05-11-2016, 03:55 PM   #7
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With Trinidad SR, 3 years was the norm in warm, salt, fertile water with regular cleaning. Right now we're in brackish water and can go about 4 years.

Not to get n a political debate but your old TBT paint was banned in the US, for our boats in 1988, 38 years ago.
Hope copper is here to stay except for Washington State it will be a daily $10000 fine to use any copper paint.
Is Copper Bottom Paint Sinking? - BoatUS Magazine
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This ban applies only to private recreational boats 65-feet and under. That leaves commercial, government, research, and for-hire passenger vessels — not to mention large ocean-going ships that frequent Washington waters — free to discourage marine growth with paint that recreational boaters can't use. And the fine, if they do, is a maximum $10,000 per day.
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Old 05-11-2016, 04:15 PM   #8
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I am with Eric, no schedule. I have hauled my sailboats only when I had to. A diver takes care of my zincs and cleans the bottom. Paint is only done when the diver complains too much. My last sailboat got hauled once for maintenance, that was for a new prop install.
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Old 05-11-2016, 04:17 PM   #9
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Is bottom paint usage price sensitive?
I see Trinidad SR at $280 per gallon.

They love to make a big show of how toxic copper is.
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"Replacing copper-based boat paint with less toxic or non-toxic paint is the only way we can reduce copper pollution in our marinas," he said. "Better options exist. Let's use them."

But some longtime boaters, who say they are seeing more birds and seals feeding in the marina than ever before, are unconvinced that the current copper levels are toxic to critical sealife.

They also say the industry lacks a proven alternative to copper paint.

Some recall when tin was banned in bottom paint, and copper was hailed as an ideal replacement. They see the current ban as part of a frustrating cycle that could eventually lead to the new, more expensive paints being prohibited in the future.
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If they dredge the harbor that will make the water even more 'toxic', but that is their goal to get rid of copper in paints. So if they can create a public crisis to further the agenda, well they can try.
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I need to lift out at least every 12 months.

Wood hull = constant vigilance :
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Old 05-11-2016, 04:31 PM   #11
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I need to lift out at least every 12 months.

Wood hull = constant vigilance :
Very nice looking boat.

Mine is wood too.
I totally rebuilt, re screwed the hull and sealed it in various goos, no epoxies.
Been a solid dry hull. nothing has eaten the wood. One worry is gribbles, they can destroy a boat just like a Teredo.
Neither can get my hull any more.
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I get 3 yrs here in freeport tx but have to dive boat ever yr for zincs
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Old 05-11-2016, 04:34 PM   #13
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I get 3 yrs here in freeport tx but have to dive boat ever yr for zincs
If I could learn how to dive the boat, I could cut hauls back 50% at least.
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Old 05-11-2016, 04:50 PM   #14
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I guess I'm at the far other end of the spectrum. Will possibly haul twice this year. Splashed in December and will haul out the end of this month. Will check the bottom (dive on it) in early September and may haul again before heading South in October. Rubbed a bunch of paint off the keel and skeg on the trip South in February. When the prop got struck on the trip South, the reconditioning left the prop with an annoying harmonic (singing) over half the RPM range, so it needs to get pulled and tweeked. To me it makes more sense to haul, do all that, touch up any other spots, check zincs, transducers and through hulls.

I use a work boat yard, so the cost is probably a lot less than many others pay. Depending on what I find in September, I may haul again as I'm more comfortable with this yard that I've used for 20+ years. I'm guessing it's half or less of what I would pay in Florida, and I can do any or all of the work myself.

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Old 05-11-2016, 05:02 PM   #15
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At my marina, cost is 200$ per month on hard, and for a 37 foot boat $400 to go back in at $10 per foot. plus they charge $25 to use the pressure washer.
they do not charge to haul out, only charge on going in. So for one month an easy $600 immediate costs before spending money on paint.
Does that sound cheap, reasonable or expensive ?
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At my marina, cost is 200$ per month on hard, and for a 37 foot boat $400 to go back in at $10 per foot. plus they charge $25 to use the pressure washer.
they do not charge to haul out, only charge on going in. So for one month an easy $600 immediate costs before spending money on paint.
Does that sound cheap, reasonable or expensive ?
I think the haul out fee is below average, but again depends on the area. $200 per month seems high to me but then I think my yard is less than $100 per month. If the yard has a limited amount of space, storage tends to be higher.

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My local Yard charges $9.50 per foot for round trip haul out for boats 40-49' in length. Storage fees are $2.25 per day/foot. Expensive storage since there is very little space at the yard. Pressure washing is $3.50 per foot.
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I haul out every October. I just painted the bottom on Monday. Launch will be in about two weeks. New bottom paint every year. Virtually no recreational boats stay in over the Winter here.
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2 years max, and sooner if the trim tab zincs start to look punky. I know I can have them replaced by a diver, but I want to look at the other metal as well.
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2yrs max for me. Dive on it in the fall just before water gets too cold, again in the spring when it just gets warm enough. Bottom usually ok, wheel shaft and rudder get growth fast. Water almost warm enough to dive right now.
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