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12-14-2018, 05:11 PM
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Senior Member
City: Seattle
Vessel Name: Mabuhay
Vessel Model: Grand Alaskan
Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 399
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Tools and where to put them?
Coming from a large garage, with car and motorcycle lifts, and associated large tool boxes - the boat we just bought just doesn't have enough room to move tool boxes into. What creative methods have you done to accommodate tools and parts in your engine rooms or lazarette?
Pics would be appreciated to give me a better understanding of the creativity amongst this group. Thanks!
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12-14-2018, 05:25 PM
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Guru
City: North Carolina for now
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 6,348
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We had one stateroom that was very rarely used, so I used the various drawers an cubbies in there as well as the upper berth for tool storage. When we did have someone up there we could move a few things temporarily out of the way, usually into the ensuite shower of that room and the occupant(s) shared a shower with the other guest SR that was not ensuite.
No room in your ER to mount something on the wall? We had some small parts(screws and bolts) cabinets in there.This on a Hatteras 56MY. Kept bulk spares like filters in the generator room in large plastic storage tubs.
Hard to comment without knowing you boat's layout and what other things and people occupy it.
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12-14-2018, 05:51 PM
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Guru
City: Fort Myers, FL... Summers in the Great Lakes
Vessel Name: Slow Hand
Vessel Model: Cherubini Independence 45
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,834
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I have built in seating with storage in the saloon. Designated one under seat storage area for tools. Like my tools rust free and the saloon has a dehumidifier. Designated another under seat storage area for spare parts. Have a storage space under the stairs just for filters. Only parts stored in the engine room are consumed liquids and funnels. Lazarette is where I store plastic gallons of other liquids.
For me, having a wide selection of spares is important. Storing them in an easily accessible dry humidity controlled place so they are useable when needed, is equally important.
Ted
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12-14-2018, 06:16 PM
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Enigma
City: Slicker?
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 16,563
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Greetings,
Mr. w8. You have a 60' boat and no room for tools???? I suggest rather than looking to be creative about where to store your tools I would re-asses the tools you want to have on board.
I will admit having tools and spares spread throughout our vessel gives me a certain amount of concern in that I'd really like to have them more or less in the same place which is an issue I am going to address this winter in a major re-org'. I may even offload some tools.
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12-14-2018, 06:22 PM
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Veteran Member
City: Sydney
Vessel Name: Poseidon
Vessel Model: Ocean Alexander 50 Mk1
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 77
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When we downsized our generator I was able to put some tool storage under the generator platform. Used the lockable style heavy duty sliders ($$) but was relatively easy to do. Not a great photo (it was of the generator) but you get the general idea.
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12-14-2018, 06:57 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
City: Au Gres, MI
Vessel Name: Black Dog
Vessel Model: Formula 41PC
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 21,185
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RT Firefly
Greetings,
Mr. w8. You have a 60' boat and no room for tools???? I suggest rather than looking to be creative about where to store your tools I would re-asses the tools you want to have on board.
I will admit having tools and spares spread throughout our vessel gives me a certain amount of concern in that I'd really like to have them more or less in the same place which is an issue I am going to address this winter in a major re-org'. I may even offload some tools.
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That is what I was thinking. We have plenty of room on our 41’ for tools, I just have them in about 3 different storage areas since they won’t fit into any one area.
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12-14-2018, 07:09 PM
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Senior Member
City: Seattle
Vessel Name: Mabuhay
Vessel Model: Grand Alaskan
Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 399
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Yes, there is room to spread out all over the boat, but it would be ideal to be able to house a toolbox or two. That probauwont work so I’ll have to figure out where to place bins or small toolboxes throughout the lazarette and engine room.
This one came with extra fuel capacity (1500 gallons) which take up a lot of space in the ER. I’ll figure out what tools are a must vs like to have. I’m used to knowing where each tool, socket, specialty tool is stored so I’m sure it will be a work in progress to set this up.
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12-14-2018, 07:28 PM
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TF Site Team
City: Paris,TN
Vessel Name: Slo-Poke
Vessel Model: Jorgensen custom 44
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 3,749
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I keep all my tools in heavy waxed canvas bags covered with oil stains in the engine . I transport my carpenter tools from home to the boat also in a heavy duty waxed canvas bag .I keep a separate bag for electrical tools and stuff separate from mechanic or carpenter tools.
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12-14-2018, 08:17 PM
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Senior Member
City: Solomons MD.
Vessel Name: Sun Runner
Vessel Model: 1985 Mainship 34 Trawler MK III
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 488
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2 canvas bags. 1 for engine tools and another for electrical.
Easy to move around and not to heavy.
Engine tools generally stay in the engine bay. Duh. Wrenches, sockets, pry bars, nutdrivers. Electrical in a cupboard in the salon. Screwdrivers, pliers, cutters, crimpers. Of course you always have over lap. Couple screwdrivers in both, adj. wrenches ....
A 5 gallon bucket for hauling 1 time use stuff and parts back and forth.
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12-14-2018, 08:20 PM
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Guru
City: Quebec
Vessel Name: Bleuvet
Vessel Model: Custom Built
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 4,375
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I store tools under a bench in the saloon and spare parts in compartment under the bed. Regular list of hand tools, like wrenches, drivers, hammer, electricity fix tools etc. Small items in stackable plastic boxes, larger in a small size toolbox.
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12-14-2018, 08:50 PM
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Veteran Member
City: gibsons
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 55
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The thing about the boat is the tools are required all over the place. Not like the home garage where you bring the jitem to the garage to work on it. So two things arw needed for me anyway. Canvas bag is the new tool box as i sure dont want hard metal dinging the place up, and second is where to store it them.
Dosent seem to matter where i put the tools, they are never in the place i need them. I do have a good spot with power and a shelf below, i keep the power tool charger and extra batery ready there. So less of a holy room and more flexibility to grab what i need for whatever job is required.
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12-14-2018, 09:13 PM
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Enigma
City: Slicker?
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 16,563
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Greetings,
Mr. w8. I have to laugh. At myself AND fellow TF members. Nope, it ISN'T like a garage or workshop where one has the freedom to spread storage out a bit but still keep everything more or less in one location. Canvas totes, stackable storage bins, nooks and crannies. I also share, what I sense is, a similar frustration of having "stuff" spread all over.
Gee, I only need ONE more small cabin, say 3'X5'x6' high with shelving and I'd be able to stow everything together. Well, as long as I'm wishing, how about 5'X7'X6' high so I can also set up a small workbench with a good vice and a drill press. I could stow my air compressor underneath....Hahaha....
Actually, the compressor is fine where it is (in the ER) as I have enough hose to reach anywhere on the boat and I DO love my air tools...Which are stowed in a lidded bin in the guest cabin on the starboard side locker...
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12-14-2018, 09:54 PM
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Guru
City: Longboat Key, FL
Vessel Name: Bucky
Vessel Model: Krogen Manatee 36 North Sea
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 5,196
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I can’t seem to have enough tools, especially when I plan projects. Thankfully, I’ve got lots of room to store them, but that’ll probably change when we’re full time cruising and the Admiral has her shoe collection aboard.
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"When life gets hard, eat marshmallows”.
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12-14-2018, 10:00 PM
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Guru
City: Madeira Beach, FL
Vessel Name: Seaweed
Vessel Model: Schucker mini-trawler
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 1,236
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Several valid points are brought up... having the tool where it is needed is important. Aboard our 40'er we had a couple of wrenches (one was notched for impeller removal) down where they were needed. These items were tied to the bulkhead using 1/8" braided line.
If you are like me you will find several items become your Go-To tools. For instance, aboard Seaweed many projects can be solved by using these few tools: Phillips and standard screwdrivers, a small set of sockets and ratchet (1/4" drive), vise grips, a knife, wrenches, multimeter and infrared thermometer. My neighbor can't manage without his adjustable wrench (for me it's the vise grips)
Those items will need to be easily accessible.
As for your tool chests and such w8n4sun... well, I don't know that I would want to have metal tool boxes due to the rust factor. Even if your boat is perfect, the salty environment can wreck havoc.
A 36'er I worked aboard last year had one large battery box for the engine room tools. That was handy, having them all organized in one spot.
Mine are scattered. One locker has the most frequently used items. I had the end cut out of one of my dinette bench seats so that I could access the locker without moving the cushions. It's easier.
The inside:
Sure, it would be nice to have matching plastic containers. For now though, this works well. Calder's is just to the right, with further back there two plastic folders filled with the paperwork from my gear.
The paperwork is sorted, alphabetically:
Whatever your setup becomes w8n4sun, I have never heard any larger boat owner regret having a permanently mounted bench vise. If you're really lucky a bench grinder can be a nice addition too. All the best to you.
Happy Boating.
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12-14-2018, 10:26 PM
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Guru
City: st pete
Vessel Model: 430 Mainship
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 3,498
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Janice,
You have a challenger with that cute small trawler you have, but you seem to be extremely organized and handy. When are you coming to the Legion again? Been looking for you.
For me, I have about 8 to 10 places for tools depending on where they are needed and how frequently. My "go to" box has all the basic stuff of the day to day minor tweaks, including my meter. I have a tool bag for bigger things, and for bigger things yet, I store them in a cabinet or drawer. All the consumables, hardware, wiring, etc are stored in plastic containers. the light weight stuff like filters, belts, etc and in a box on the flybridge.
I built a box with compartments over the rudder which give a lot of space for parts, oil, etc in the lazarette.
I also have a written directory of where everything is. So, if I search for 18g red wire, or a #8 truss head, 1.5 in long screw, I know where it is.
Ya just can't have too many tools.
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12-14-2018, 10:27 PM
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Guru
City: Signal Mtn., TN
Vessel Name: Stella Maris
Vessel Model: Defever 44
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 2,742
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When we bought our Defever, the two house banks (two 8Ds per bank) were in large fiberglass boxes outboard of the mains. I consolidated the batteries (no longer 8Ds) into a single house bank and relocated them aft. I use the boxes to store bulky, infrequently used tools—like bolt cutters, lug tool and die grinder—along with spares. Still looking for a good spot for a regular toolchest.
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12-15-2018, 05:41 AM
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Senior Member
City: Charleston
Vessel Name: THIRD CHILD
Vessel Model: KADEY KROGEN 48AE
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 114
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For commonly used hand tools, I've found I hardly use more than 1-2 on any job. I use sealable kitchenware bins and leave them near the area where they work, For example, socket wrenches for checking engine room anodes stay next to engine, hydraulics etc.
Keep all battery run and power tools in sealed bins in pilothouse which has better heat/humidity control.
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12-15-2018, 06:55 AM
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Guru
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 5,036
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Most of mine are in a canvas bags in compartments under the side doors.
Supplies such as electrical connectors, wire etc are in plastic boxes or bins in various locations.
I have much more than I need aboard, until I need something else. Then hopefully someone on the dock or in the anchorage has it.
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Ex boats: 1983 40 Albin trunk cabin, 1978 Mainship 34 Model 1
New Port Richey, Fl
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12-15-2018, 06:56 AM
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Veteran Member
City: Virginia
Vessel Name: Buoy Scout
Vessel Model: Tiara 3700 Open
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 26
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I keep many of my tools in canvas bags--one with an assortment of tools for most minor jobs, another with sockets and wrenches for engine work, one specifically for impeller changes with all the needed dedicated tools (engine and genset), one for lights and lighting, one for the dinghy and engine, and one for canvas and snaps. These are kept under the saloon seating.
Many smaller spares for plumbing, electrical are in a set of compartmented Stanley storage cases. Filters are under the companionway steps. Engine and genset spares are under the island queen.
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12-15-2018, 08:25 AM
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Guru
City: gulf coast
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 3,440
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I used a small three drawer chest in a locker near the ER. It was jam packed to overflowing but along with a plastic box for oil filter and stuffing box wrenches I had everything I needed to care for twin Cummins and a 44' boat. Every time I did work I left the required tools on board but only that tool. I didn't need an entire 1/2" socket set just the ones for the engines
Electrical stuff, canvas stuff and spares were under a bunk in a large plastic bin.
I learned to rethink my tool selection and keep only what was absolutely required.
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