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Old 03-22-2013, 09:53 PM   #41
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Or know the first thing to do in trying to break a recalcitrant nut/bolt is tighten it.
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Old 03-22-2013, 10:05 PM   #42
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The tools you carry often reflect the condition of your boat.
For us as inland/coastal cruisers, we buy a cheap combo set every couple years, donating the old set (with missing/rusted components) to Goodwill...and we have unlimited towing (which we've never used).
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I cant count the times I have stopped to assist broken down boaters who have broken a belt or impeller which they should have spares of onboard but didn't.
Good idea the cheap combo set but for non trailer boats don't you think they should also be additional items?
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Old 03-22-2013, 11:26 PM   #43
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Or know the first thing to do in trying to break a recalcitrant nut/bolt is tighten it.
Same trick applies to tapered pipe threads.

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Old 03-23-2013, 12:03 AM   #44
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Or know the first thing to do in trying to break a recalcitrant nut/bolt is tighten it.
Of course you can always follow the (insert name of airframe manufacturer here) method of torquing a fastener. Which is:

Torque it down until it breaks, then back off half a turn.

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Old 03-23-2013, 11:12 AM   #45
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A realtively simple job can become a major project because of the damage caused by using the wrong tool, a wrongly sized or damaged tool, or the right tool held at an awkward angle. Combine this with the fact that boats seem to have endless fasteners with restricted access and you have mucho opportunities to screw up. I bought a Skewdriver by Spec Tools 12 years ago and it solves most of these problems; I use it just about every day. Apart for the obvious, the nut-driver bits are ideal for tightening hose clamps and there is an adapter to mount 1/4" drive sockets. I have a set of small hex-shank twist drills, so it can double as a light-duty angle drill too. I would not be without it. No affiliation etc etc.
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Old 03-23-2013, 11:14 AM   #46
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After a lifetime of fixing things, I can say one thing for certain; Some people should not be allowed to own, much less use tools.

It's not a matter of intelligence, it's a matter of aptitude. I've known people with PHD degrees who couldn't put a piece of knockdown furniture together with picture instructions.

Some folks would do much better to carry a credit card or cash.
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Old 03-23-2013, 02:46 PM   #47
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Old 03-23-2013, 04:36 PM   #48
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And make sure to get two of everything because inevitably the first one WILL go in the water.
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Old 03-23-2013, 04:47 PM   #49
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And make sure to get two of everything because inevitably the first one WILL go in the water.
That's true Bess with the proviso only when you need it the most

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Old 03-23-2013, 09:21 PM   #50
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And make sure to get two of everything because inevitably the first one WILL go in the water.
At the risk of being made fun of...

I use leashes on any expensive tools in a precarious situation. Or any time I am in the water (changing a zinc).
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Old 03-23-2013, 09:27 PM   #51
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At the risk of being made fun of...

I use leashes on any expensive tools in a precarious situation. Or any time I am in the water (changing a zinc).
So do I. I tie a piece of twine around the wrench I use to change the transom zincs, for example. The bitter end gets tied to the base of a rail stanchion.
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Old 03-23-2013, 09:50 PM   #52
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At the risk of being made fun of...

I use leashes on any expensive tools in a precarious situation. Or any time I am in the water (changing a zinc).
Same here. If I'm working over the gunwale, when possible, I use a leash or wrist strap. I keep a length of parachute cord handy for this purpose. Some tools, like screwdrivers, are less conducive to this than others, like wrenches, but I do it when practical. Plan B is my large permanent magnet to retrieve those tools which escaped Plan A.

Just last weekend, while refueling, I remembered an incident which occurred in Jan when we joined markpierce and Giggitoni in Pittsburg, CA. While refueling, my fuel vent overflow canister started to float away during refueling. My Admiral and Mrs. Delta Swizzler sprung into action and retrieved it at an adjacent dock with the help of a boat pole and fishing net. This time, I tethered it...and good thing I did. After tank #1 filled, I saw it jump off the transom vent, making a run for it. Shortly thereafter, here comes Pineapple Girl, out of the blue, looking for cheap diesel. Without the tether, she would have caught me fishing the bottle out of the river! (shhhh...don't tell)

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Old 03-23-2013, 10:24 PM   #53
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Whew...

Well, my wife still thinks I'm a geek.
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For important tools, we use four hands. I'm supposed to catch.
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Old 03-24-2013, 08:14 AM   #55
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For important tools, we use four hands. I'm supposed to catch.
Bess, you've got that salty-talking hamster that can fix everything - he's the best tool there is!

I think he's rebuilt Skinny Dippin' from scratch.
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Old 03-24-2013, 09:11 AM   #56
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Same here. If I'm working over the gunwale, when possible, I use a leash or wrist strap. I keep a length of parachute cord handy for this purpose. Some tools, like screwdrivers, are less conducive to this than others, ..................
Drill a hole trough the handle for a piece of string or light rope.
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Old 03-24-2013, 11:08 AM   #57
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As the biggest tool on this forum (and a lifetime mechanic), let me make a couple of important points.

A lot of people advocate that Brand X or that doing This or That is cheap insurance for you to keep your boat going. Well, here is a PRIME example of it and just about the only one I abide by. Cheap tools suck. Period. Harbor Freight, Wal-Mart, and the tool tent at your local flea market is NOT the place to buy tools. IMHO, having quality tools onboard is vital to sucessful boating. Sure, you can use cheaper parts here and there, but when said part breaks while underway or when you rally need to get a stubborn bolt off without destroying it and costing you perhaps hundreds or thousands in extra repair costs, THIS is when good tools pay for themselves.

Yes, some people WILL have success with cheaper tools. I don't deny that it can happen. However, when it comes to the right tool for the right job, I rarely skimp and prefer quality over quantity unless there is a specific need or that I know this will be a one-use job.

The flaw in my attitude happens when I am discovering that the Craftsman tools I have relied on for decades begin to fall victim to the shift of quality and profits by Sears and they are NOT the tools they were 25 years ago. No, they are not Snap-On or Matco, but they are still a much higher quality over HF.

I really enjoy having to go out and buy new tool. I haven't tried to have everything at once. I have slowly built-up my toolbox over the last four years and feel like I have a superior stockpile over a lot of the other boaters I know without a ton of redundancy or without a box full of stuff I won't need.

Thanks for your time... Now back to your regularly scheduled thread,
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My general rule is that if I needed to take a tool from my house to the boat for mechanical or electrical maintenance, it stays there, or a similar and suitable replacement is obtained. Carpentry tools, no.
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but sorry to be the bearer of bad news Tom but a friend of mine has a Snap-On truck and he says that Snap-On has been forced to go off shore for some products as well just to stay competitive. Even Costco now has a Snap-On LED work light on their shelf, made in China. I still have a full set of Gray wrenches I bought when I was a teenager nearly 50 years ago (yes I'm that old). The chrome is not as pretty as today's stuff but I have yet to break one and they have been well used.
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I worked as a field mechanic on heavy equipment for 30 years. During that time one of the things I learned was it makes no difference how good the guarantee on a hand tool was when you broke the only one you've got & your 40 miles from no where. I started out buying Craftsman but ended up when I retired with a truck full of Snap-On. When you make your living with tools don't skimp on quality.
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