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11-20-2016, 04:21 PM
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City: Houma, Louisiana
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Teak Railings
Sanded to bare teak, using Cetol Marine. How many coats should I put, should I sand between coats, how long to wait between coats, is there a top coat I should put on.
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11-20-2016, 04:29 PM
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City: Narragansett Bay
Vessel Model: Grand Banks 36 Classic #715
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3 coats of Cetol color and 2 coats of gloss..... Total 5 coats. No sanding necessary between coats. However sanding between the 2 coats of gloss will give a smoother finish if desired.
24 hours between coats.
Good luck!
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11-20-2016, 04:43 PM
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Enigma
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Greetings,
Mr. k. I will offer a slightly different opinion than Mr. E. One coat Cetol Marine and 2 or 3 coats, preferably 3, of course, of gloss.
My reason for this is Cetol Marine does impart color to the teak and we prefer a lighter hue in our teak.
On some items I have sanded between coats to produce a smoother finish as Mr. E. mentions but with the amount of exterior teak we have I limited the "some" items.
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11-20-2016, 04:51 PM
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City: Sydney
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5 coats of Cetol Gloss, sanding after coats 3 & 4.
Last refinish of the FB nameboards I applied a diluted teak stain to even up and restore color, without sanding really hard right back to "green teak". I`m watching that work, for its longevity.
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Sydney Australia
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11-20-2016, 06:21 PM
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City: Narragansett Bay
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So I am open to learn. I was under the impression that the Cetol gloss does not have any UV protection. Therefore the color.....either natural teak or Cetol light needed to be applied rather heavily beforehand.
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11-21-2016, 08:31 PM
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City: Thibodaux, Louisiana
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Ronnie, I have been using 3 coats of the Marine Natural Teak, scuffing lightly between coats with a green Scotch fiber pad between coats. I have never used a topcoat, or two, of gloss but after reading this thread I think I'll pick up a can of gloss and give it a try. Conditions here are about the worst for the life of any coatings!
I'll probably be at the boat tomorrow drop by if you pass that way.
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11-21-2016, 08:47 PM
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City: Sarasota/Ft. Lauderdale
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kartracer
Sanded to bare teak, using Cetol Marine. How many coats should I put, should I sand between coats, how long to wait between coats, is there a top coat I should put on.
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Prepping teak for Cetol is just like prepping for varnish if you want the best looking, longest lasting finish.
Clean and sand the wood very smooth. Then I'd put down at least 4 coats of the color coating and then 3-4 of the gloss.
If you're not using the gloss then at least 6 coats of the color coat.
With the color coat, depending on the weather, you can over coat without sanding between coat in the same day. I've put on as many as 3 coats in a day.
After 12 hours/over night, if the finish is smooth just scuff sand well with 3M green scuffy pads before putting on the first coat of the day.
One of the keys to a long lasting finish is to fill the grain of the wood and end up with a very smooth finish.
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11-21-2016, 08:53 PM
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Cetol is ugly. Leaves an orange finish. Use Epithanes
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11-21-2016, 09:07 PM
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City: Slicker?
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Greetings,
Mr. MVD. Yup, Cetol does impart color that's why I only use 1 coat of the Marine finish (post #3). Epithanes is a varnish with none of the benefits of Cetol's easy application and easy repair/recoat. Varnish is WAY too much work.
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11-21-2016, 09:08 PM
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But far more beautiful
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11-21-2016, 09:10 PM
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Enigma
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Plus the OP is using Cetol. Varnish is not in the equation.
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11-21-2016, 09:40 PM
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Im in Mexico. The Mexicans do beautiful finish work.
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11-21-2016, 10:27 PM
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City: Sydney
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MVDarlin
Im in Mexico. The Mexicans do beautiful finish work.
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Hopefully just on railings, not on walls.
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11-22-2016, 12:35 AM
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I had the entire interior varnished for $200. Satin finish
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11-22-2016, 03:00 AM
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City: Fort Pierce
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BruceK
Hopefully just on railings, not on walls.
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They do good work on stone walls. The Gated Communities in Texas Cities are, almost W/o exception done by Mexican Stone Masons. Paid for mostly with Gringole $'s. I have it on good authority that the IBMSM (International Brotherhood of Mexican Stone Masons) are quite excited and hopeful about the possibility of working close to their families and homes.
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11-22-2016, 05:06 AM
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City: Narragansett Bay
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The Cetol "Natural Teak" color is much lighter and "less orangey" then the "Cetol Light" despite what the names might implicate. Not as pretty as varnish but a lot less work....less often.
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11-22-2016, 05:55 AM
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City: Jacksonville
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What, nobody mentioned....
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11-28-2016, 06:10 AM
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City: Houma, Louisiana
Vessel Name: M/V LUNASEA
Vessel Model: 45ft Bluewater Coastal
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Finished all teak on boat, went with Cetol Natural and Man-O-WAR clear. Went to the local marine paint store and asked what they thought I should use. Owner said he has 6 different clears in stock, go out the back door and pick the one you want. Thinking where is this guy sending me, but he was following. In the back yard of his store in the weather was 3 6x6's all had different clears. They are all 2 years old and that is what they look like, you pick.
I used the same brush for the entire boat without cleaning it. Someone had posted a while back about putting your brush in a plastic bag then in the freezer until ready to use it again, IT WORKS.
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11-28-2016, 06:13 AM
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City: Sarasota/Ft. Lauderdale
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MVDarlin
I had the entire interior varnished for $200. Satin finish
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You're in Mexico right?
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