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Old 03-05-2011, 07:04 AM   #81
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Erik,* Glad you did the dark-- Looks awesome!

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Old 03-05-2011, 11:42 PM   #82
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Yeah.....white is soooo last week......
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RE: The start of a nice project (clipper 30ft)

Maybe we should have a concourse(not sure if the correct spelling)*award as they do in car clubs. We could call it the 'Erik'

Actually, we could have a few different awards, named after some the characters in the forum.

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The start of a nice project (clipper 30ft)

It has been a while hey .....

So probably are thinking ... what happened with Erik and shipshape? **

Well I haven't forgotten to update the forum .... we just had a few hickups and problems ... we found some rot in the back half of the cabin ... The admiral removed the old carpet so it could be replaced ... and she took the timber with it .... all rot ... the cabin was held together with the fibreglass, paint and carpet ...

But ... nothing is a problem ... we decided to cut out all the timber that had it ... and replace by new ... from the inside out .. a bit tricky as we didn't want to damage the outside fibreglass ... also the ceiling was a bit of rot in it ... that's where the water leaked in .... we of course fixed the leak first (it had a damaged drain hole on the flybridge that caused this damage over the years.

Photos attached as usual .....*

and now it's getting ready .... it's out of the shed ... sitting on the hard for another couple of days ... and then we'll throw here in the water ... that's when the real photos will be taken ....

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Old 03-30-2011, 07:18 AM   #85
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RE: The start of a nice project (clipper 30ft)

Lookin' good Erik and Bridget. Maybe we should link up for your/our 1st trip out, just in case one of us has an issue. Mine has just had new engine parts installed, and your quite a bit more than that. That way we could tow each other back if one konks out. Surely it wouldn't happen to both at once......could it....? When do you think you'll splash, as they say. Also, where will you moor her? Oh yes, got the rest of my engine painted last weekend just after you were over.
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Carl,

The walls will be a grey carpet and the ceiling white vinyl. *Same as the v-berth, we are doing with vinyl.
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Hoi Peter,

Yep sounds good, think "we'll splash" this Friday, maybe Monday.....

Not sure which berth we will have ....

Like to come and look at the painted engine ......

Are you happy with your wind power? Did you install yourself?
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Erik, Yep been there myself. Beautiful boat though. I can see why you spent the Bucks and time.

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*.... for the ceiling, we made boards (2400 mm x 600 mm) with a 10mm gap between them, and are lined with vinyl off the boat. Then attached in the boat with high strength velcro.

Eric, Interesting way to do an accessible headliner.* How did you attach the velcro to the panels?

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I'm not nuts about dark hulled boats but Erick's boat is stunning. I hav'nt even looked at the dark hull thread but seeing the picture of Erick's boat makes me think of my old Buick. I wonder if the same principals or elements about hull color apply to old cars. I'm quite sure my old Buick (see pic) would look better in black. One thing to think about is how well the dark vehicle will look over time. My Buick has the original paint and anywhere up close it shows but if it were black original paint I think it would look noticeably worse. I've seen good pictures of Walt's boat and it's stunning too but what will it look like after it's had the use and age of my off-white 1974 Willard. Trawlers have big issues with time and money relationships. When a trawler is bought new the buyer has more than enough money to keep his trawler in fuel no matter how far he goes or how much throttle he uses. BUT most all of us that own trawlers own old trawlers because ther'e old and cheap AND we can afford (or almost afford) to pay the fuel bill and almost go as far as we would like. Builders could build trawlers that burn half as much fuel per ton of disp as my Willard but people buying new trawlers don't need to care so until economy becomes important to THEM*** ... more efficient trawlers will not come to pass. Trawlers will continue to be built for the people that buy them new with no consideration for the owners 25yrs down the road and I'm not saying how bad this is but how certain it is. So it's up to us to change them (when it's cost effective) so they are better suited to our needs. So far pulling the throttles back and painting much of the teak has been the only widespread change or modification/s made by many or most trawler owners but I predict much greater efforts will be made in the near future.
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Nice job Eric. looking good. I feel for you on the rotted wall issue, I had the same problem on my Marine Trader, did the major repair from the outside first.
The paint job looks super, Much better with sprayed paint than rolled on for sure.
Will keep following your progress.
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John,

The velcro is glued on the ceiling and glued on the panels and stapled as well .... it "should" hold ....

Thin strips (as per photo) first, ready to glue the velcro on

Carpet is on .....*


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Yep sounds good, think "we'll splash" this Friday, maybe Monday.....

Not sure which berth we will have ....

Like to come and look at the painted engine ......

Are you happy with your wind power? Did you install yourself?
*Hi Erik.* She had her trial run Sunday, and all went well.* For pics of engine go to the 'Show us your ER' thread.* As to the Airbreeze, yes, I did install it myself.* No drama really, quite straightforward.* Good instructions.* Only tricky thing is getting the right pole to mount it on, and positioned in a place where it is vertical, secure, out of the way, and where no-one is likely to be able to reach out and cut their fingers off....and yes, it does make us independent of the need for a motor-powered genny, and we can run everything we have, frig included, out at anchor as long as we like without motoring to charge the batts.

How about you?* Have you splashed yet, and did you manage to secure that berth next to us?* It would be ideal in terms of being a blow-on, and port to dock where you pilot door is.* That makes a huge difference when it comes to docking. We were berthed to port initially, and my door is on starboard, and it was a real pain.* Nice also to have a similar boat as neighbours.* Most of the boats on our arm are what I call plastic fantastics, or go-fast boats, so not really possible to link up with them, as we are too slow.

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RE: The start of a nice project (clipper 30ft)

Erik,

Have you strengthened the flybridge by adding extra beams or was that what it looked like when took out the headliners.

By the way is she a Mark 1 or 2(the boat, not the wife)
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Hoi,*

We strengthened the flybrigde with extra timer rafter .... took some out, cause they showed some rot ... and put new side beams in both port and starboard.

The lining is up and looking georgeous ... fogot my camera ... soo soon .....

Not sure about Mark1 or 2 .... it's a clipper 30 ft ... how do I tell?
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As I understand , there were 3 Clipper(CHB) models brought into Oz. The mark 1 & 2 had external timber window frames, and the seating on the flybridge ran across the boat. With the mark 3 the external windows were aluminium and the seating on the flybridge ran along the port and starboard sides of the flybridge.

Also I think the forward cabin trunk of the MK1 & 2 was ply encased in glass whereas the MK3 was solid glass.

Apparently the main difference between the MK1 & 2 was interior cosmetics, this differed from the aft cabin model and the Europa style that you and Peter have.

There are variations within each model as as I understand not all the boats came from the same boat yards. Apparently in the early days, circa 1970's it was not uncommon for the boat's fiberglass moulds to be 'borrowed' from yard to yard, it appears there were strong family connections in the boat building industry and everyone wanted a piece of the action when the popularity of these boats took off.

The guy who surveyed my last two boats, 34 Clipper & 36 IG, was the certifier who cleared the Clippers for entry to Oz.

*He has some great stories about these boat yards, often some canvass strung between two trees with all the family fitting out the boats.Apparently the*boats were brought into Oz and the engines were fitted here, the main commissioning place is what is now known as D'Albora Marina, Akuna Bay, in those days it was known as Clippers Anchorage, hence the name Clipper. The 34' sold for a bit more than $32K ready to go.

There you go, a bit of trivia for Friday afternoon.My 34' MK 1,aft cabin Clipper called 'Amadeus' now lives up in your part of the world, loved that boat, give her a wave if you come across her.
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Thanks Andy ... indeed great information ... didn't know that .....

A before and after picture ..... more to come ....
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Hi Andy. Good info that. Yes I've seen Amadeus around. Not sure where based tho, but being a Clipper 34 I take notice of names etc. As to the Mk 1, 2 & 3. As you say, the main difference was the flybridge seat arrangement, and topsides material. I don't like my bridge seating much, I'd like the room to put a proper helm chair, on the other hand it is quite practical, and we don't spend much time up there, so I don't hate it so much I am prepared to hack it about. The main other difference is the Mk 3 was all fibreglass topsides I think, whereas Mks 1 & 2 are ply cabins/deck with glass over...
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By the way Erik, that nifty bowsprit is just begging to have a nice Sarca out on it....he he he...

Oh, hey, yes, Erik, knew there was something else...did you look into the blow-on berth next to me?* It won't be vacant long, or is it not up for grabs at present anyway..?

PS, I'm going to be away till end of May in the UK now visiting son and family.* See you on the water when we get back.* I'm hoping to see a nice sleek black hull next to Lotus when we do.* Beside, it would make my new white paint look good too in contrast.


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Hi Peter,

Yep it's in the water .... splashed as they say ..... after a few issues .... it's not finished yet ... outside is ... inside needs a bit more work, which I will do ..... ran out of money

We decided to move it to hope harbour marina .... a few reasons .... but we will definitely make contact when you're back ... for a trip.

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