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Old 01-20-2011, 05:58 AM   #21
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They do good fuel tanks with baffles and what ever inlets and outlets you desire.
Living on the Sunshine Coast I just buzz down to the factory and have a chat with the boys/girls
Atlas will weld on flanges or mounts if desired so that you can screw or bolt them to some form of frame work.
I recently had them make me up a holding tank about 220 lts with a couple of flanges for attaching to bulkhead and floor in Eng Rm.
Bfore they made it they e-mailed me a drawing to make sure they had it right.

Don't discount the importance of having a sump on your fuel tanks.
Most of our fuel is supplied by waterside bowsers that have a high chance of leakage* to their storage tanks,so allways be checkin for water in your fuel

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Old 01-30-2011, 02:59 AM   #22
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What do we think about a black hull ? did some quick drawing ..... thinking of painting hull back and the rest silver ....
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Old 01-30-2011, 05:43 AM   #23
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Erik,
Just a short comment.
You will regret it during the summer, especially if you head any further north.
Even the late winter is pretty warm.
I had alwasy thought of painting my boat hull dark green . But this same reason has always held me back.

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Black would be hotter, and might fade - silver too glarey I think. I rather like the Nordhavn grey for the hull, but the other half didn't....ho...hum...
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Old 01-30-2011, 02:05 PM   #25
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Erik - Dark hulls are very attractive, but every little scratch and piece of dried salt water shows. Tough decision. Very impressive job you've been doing in the bilge!
Erik,

Ours is a dark green hull and tan or off white topsides*and we live in North Carolina.* During the summer time we get in the mid to upper*90's for long periods of time with high humidity.*

I really don't see the differences that some folks are claiming.* Is the hull warm to the touch*inside when in the direct sun, yes but I had a white sailboat before and so was the hull on that boat.* Does my AC struggle in 90+ weather?* Not really it works all day as did the AC on the sailboat.** But the difference is that this boat with the proper AC unit keeps cooler than the sailboat did.** The key also is to have the windows covered.* This eliminates a lot of the heat inside.
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Old 01-30-2011, 10:58 PM   #26
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Mmmmm thanks guys .... hard to convince my wife NOT to go black .... JD, she likes what you wrote ...
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Old 01-31-2011, 04:19 AM   #27
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I suppose white hulls are a bit of a tradition here in Qld.
When I suggested to Bert (the boat builder) when we were building Tidahapah that I wanted to paint the hull dark green his reply was ok, but when it leave this yard it will be white after that it is up to you.
I had dark green trim on my cap rails for the first 10 years but have now even changed that to white because of the attention the dark paint to keep it good and not lift off under the heat.

In would still like to have a nice glossy dark green hull but experience tells me No.

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Old 01-31-2011, 04:27 AM   #28
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Comments from my lady :**Is it right to say ... if you scratch a white hull it makes a black mark ... if you scratch a black hull it leaves a white mark ....* with our main cabin not touching the hull .... we have the walkaround to isolate it ... and the aft deck to separate *the back .... it's only the front cabin that is potentially suffering from the black hull ... but the sun is never straight on it .... so she thinks it might not matter to much .. the heath ... windows ... that she agrees .... and also with the salt water on the black ... but that's just a bit more cleaning for the hubbie .... black is not easy to spot ... silver not good either .... but she claims that a white boat is not easy to see in the whites of the ocean ..... and for that, we should paint it bright orange ....*Do you guys understand how difficult it is ... living with her ??? .... But ... I love her .....*
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Erik, our first boat was a 20 ft Tasman trailer yacht, and when we bought her, she had a rich red hull, which had been 2 packed over the original dark red wine-coloured gelcoat. She looked fantastic, and I have to say, I had the deck and cabin-top 2 packed white because the gelcoat was cactus a few yrs later, and when we sold her the red hull still looked just as good. A good 2 pack paint will definitely outlast a similar colour gelcoat, so if you want colour - go for colour. I agree the effect re heat getting inside is minimal - dark is hotter to the touch, but does not penetrate all that far in, especially through cored fibreglass, the main heat comes in through the windows as someone else said. Your car is a good example. I have had white and dark cars and not having a sunroof, and keeping as much sun as possibe from getting through the glass is the main thing. Then the air-con does the rest. On a boat the one place not to have dark is the deck, for reason of heat on bare feet. That is the one place you do notice it.
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engine serviced ... cleaned ... repainted ... ready to be installed again ....
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Old 02-01-2011, 03:18 AM   #31
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Erik,
Lookin good.
Hope the engine room is completed for you soon enough.
Our cyclonic / moist conditions arn't good for being on the hard are they, everything seems to take twice as long.
Looks like good progress.
Hope to progress on mine soon.
Off to Tin Can tomorrow to have a look at boat after 7 weeks away.
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Erik, your engine looks good. Mine is in the process of having new heat exchanger, and both oil coolers, and the exhaust injection knuckle replaced. The paint on the top parts is looking flaked and patchy - thought I might degrease her and re-spray. What did you use and from where - the paint that is? Is she in, or been thru Bruce Forsythe's paint shed yet?
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Looks Shipshape shipshape,
Looks like I see PolyFlex engine mounts. We have same and like. Are you going to do the belt trick that Marin and others do?
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Peter,She is in the shed now ..... just next to Bruce ... at mainstream .... Bruce is working in there ... we will be moving in Bruce's shed when we're ready to paint.
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Should we change the heat exchanger? * It still seems to do the job .... we will be linking the hot water to it ..... is a heat exchanger expensive ? *and is it not easy to replace when in the water?I will talk to the mechanic today .....
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Hi Carl and others,Talked to the mechanic .... and they have replaced the heat exchanger, oil cooler and gearbox cooler in 2008 ..... so this should all be good .....
The engine and gearbox also had a major rebuild in 2004 ... so this is still as new isn't it?
refitting the engine ... probably end of next week .... will be fun ... and I will happy when it's back in .... we are now building the supports for the tanks, batteries and fibreglassing it ....
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Just wondering guys,is there a MK 1,34' aft cabin Clipper named 'Amadeus' on your marina. It is my old boat which I sold about 4 years ago and I believe it now resides up there.
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Getting there ... another week I guess for the bilge ... then the outside .....
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Erik,

What a night and day difference in the pictures. *Thanks for the continuing posts; helps to get me motivated to do a little cleaning down below myself.


Beautiful job thus far!


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Erik,
Lookin good.
Nice work, hope mine comes up 1/2 as good before the Gardner goes in.
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