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Old 11-11-2012, 01:58 PM   #1
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Sofa Conundrum

I'm having a conundrum. We bought a 100.00 Futon at Target last year for the Salon. It fits. it was cheap, and could sleep a friend if needed. After a year, the springs and frame were really being felt through. So I thought I'd strip it down and rebuild it. Better stronger faster. Right?

I always forget how expensive foam rubber is. I don't know why, but I do. So....the question is, do I spend upwards of 3-400.00 on foam and fabric to make my 100.00 futon new and comfy, or do I shop for a sofa that is meant for this purpose? The RV sofas that's I've found online are easly 700.00 for ugly fabric and 1100.00 for the soft ultra leather. Not including shipping. Or, do I get another crappy 100.00 futon for the next year and not worry about it?

A slip neighbor found a nice convertible sofa for just 300.00 at a local furniture store that would be ideal. We went there and they had nothing!

If you have free standing furniture, where did you get it, and how much do you like it? I don't want to start an argument on the benefits of built-ins versus open salons, I just want some ideas on where to shop!

Thanks!!
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Old 11-11-2012, 02:11 PM   #2
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Had the same issue...bought a "click clack" sofa...MUCH nicer than a futon, lot's of storage built in under seat and fits perfectly...very comfortable and around $400 but worth it. We got ours in charcoal gray and it fits in perfectly.

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Old 11-11-2012, 08:16 PM   #3
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Bess,

We got this futon at a local store with an 8" thick pad/mattress no springs. It was great for the four years we had it. Made some blocks (second photo) to keep it in one place in the cabin.

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Old 11-11-2012, 08:29 PM   #4
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Nothing assembled will fit tru my salon entry door so I added a section to my existing sectional then had it all recovered the cost..... over$4000 sunbrella fabric and hi densty foam
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I thought that sofas and other stand-alone furniture belonged only to yachts or ships. Seems like I'm out-classed.



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Garage and moving sales. Anything made by Lazy Boy will fit through a 24" opening. Or new but pretty expensive.
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Old 11-11-2012, 08:49 PM   #7
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I have had both on different boats. I liked the built in better, Was gonna have a built in sectional built but when I got quote .....I decided I liked the existing free standing better
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I was tired of boring beige so....
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When we had our 34" Mainship, we hit several RV superstores till we found the exact size couch/hide-abed that fit. A big plus was the huge drawer underneath for storage.
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Old 11-12-2012, 07:21 AM   #10
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When we had our 34" Mainship, we hit several RV superstores till we found the exact size couch/hide-abed that fit. A big plus was the huge drawer underneath for storage.
We tried that too, but two things are wrong with this. First, "RV grade" is the land-lubbers "marine grade" and a simple Flexsteel sofa is between $700-$1000. Second, we have yet to find a local RV store that has any furniture in stock.
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Try Ikea. Lots of smaller sized sleeper sofas for a nice price.
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Old 11-12-2012, 01:00 PM   #12
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Don't give up on the futon yet. We run a B&B and a couple of rooms have expensive sofabeds with dreadful 4-inch Serta Perfect Sleeper spring mattresses that are so uncomfortable we warn guests that they are best suited to kids-only (and we put a 2" foam topper on to make it work for adults).

However, we have a futon in another room (for space reasons) and it becomes a very comfortable double bed. It is not a $100 Target special or an old cotton-filled dorm room special. It has a high quality 6" spring futon mattress that rivals some of our custom-made regular commercial mattresses for quality -- not lumpy or springy or saggy. Most big cities have futon shops and they usually have a wide range of frames and matresses and decorative slip covers on display. You can "try them out" as you would in a bed store. Our frame/mattress/cover combo was close to $500 but it is attractive, comfortable and has stood up very well over the years.

Doubt if you could rebuild your bargain futon into an acceptable sleeper for the cost of replacing the mattress for a better one (assuming that you like the Target frame).
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Old 11-12-2012, 06:16 PM   #13
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Doubt if you could rebuild your bargain futon into an acceptable sleeper for the cost of replacing the mattress for a better one (assuming that you like the Target frame).
Not giving up on anything yet. I have some time to shop! I'm sure I "can" rebuild it for a decent sit and occasional overnight. I'm pretty crafty and have reupholstered before. I'm just not sure I want to spend probably over 300.00 to do it, when I can save the time and frustration by spending a little more and not.

I would love a good futon if I can find one to fit the spot!
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If you go new, you can give your old one to Wiggles. Sorry, couldn't resist:

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If you go new, you can give your old one to Wiggles. Sorry, couldn't resist:

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Darn!! I already removed all the stuffing!!
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Wow, love this. Did you design/measure and then have a shop build it?
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if you referring to me about the red sectional yes exactly what I did
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Old 03-29-2013, 06:31 AM   #18
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Foam hard enough for your butt will be far to rock like to sleep on.

2 layers stuck together , and flipped so the proper side is up works well for dinettes where folks chose to sleep on a table.

For a couch , springs are the answer .
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The cushions of the Eagle were original straight up and down, narrow, uncomfortable and ugly! So we changed converted them to be wider and more like a domestic sofa. We used the original foam and ply as the bases. The bottom ply extended about 6 further out, and glued a round to the edge, and a round to the lower back as a lumbar support. This made the cushions wider, and more comfortable like a sofa. Then re upholstered. They are so comfortable that many nights we fall asleep on them.
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Working that out in my head. I'm going to print this out and keep it. Really hoping to take out the built ins and buy someting more comfortable but you never know. I still have the expensive fabric I bought to recover the salon cushions in our sailboat (had to go to the shop and take back the old cushions and new bolt of fabric when we unexpectedly lost our engine and had to put the money there instead). Thanks for the info.
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